2024/25 Vitalii Mykolenko

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Zatara said:
He'll be 32 in the summer. Zero value.

Benitez clearly moved him on to bring in 2 younger full backs (which were needed). The issue is that neither have impacted our games in different ways under Dyche.




Was it a myth last season when many of us were saying he was fantastic defensively?

How about when he stopped the best wingers in the league, another myth?

Such a mass hysteria about him.

If his effort wasnt blocked yesterday he'd have broken the net and majy posters would be hand cranking over him.
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Solid defensively in a well drilled unit is just your typical attribute for any full back that plays in a relegation threatened team, and he isn't even that this season.

Look at every game, especially yesterday's, and see how much our attack is crippled by the fact he can't contribute anything with the ball at his feet. He gives our left sided attacker no support so their game suffers. It's as bad as playing with ten men when we have the ball.

People can't moan about us being in relegation battles year in, year out and then in the next breath say Mykolenko is a decent option. Too many of our fans look at our players with bias. The majority are very poor by Premier League standard.
 

Shouldve scored that chance yesterday. He's not confident with crossing or taking on a man, anytime he gets it he passes back to McNeil
 
dannyboy said:
People can't moan about us being in relegation battles year in, year out and then in the next breath say Mykolenko is a decent option. Too many of our fans look at our players with bias. The majority are very poor by Premier League standard.
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This is where I stand generally about our results this season. As underwhelming as they've been, how many of our players comfortably get in all the other bottom half teams? For me it's only Pickford and Branthwaite.
 

dannyboy said:
People can't moan about us being in relegation battles year in, year out and then in the next breath say Mykolenko is a decent option. Too many of our fans look at our players with bias. The majority are very poor by Premier League standard.
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Exactly. We have two good players. Everyone else is a journeyman.

Evertonians big up utter mediocrity, I think, because many of them never actually saw the great teams of the 80s or 60s, so have no genuine comparator.

We were also very good at underselling genuinely brilliant teams: "the team of no stars" was the genuinely baffling moniker given to our fantastic 80s side. No stars? Really?

In that environment, it's no surprise the likes of Barkley or Gordon or even Richarlison are held up as superstars, when they are nothing of the sort. But at least all three of those had genuine talent (flawed, but present). The current Everton side has two quality players. Everybody else is there to make up the numbers.
 
Furey1878 said:
This is where I stand generally about our results this season. As underwhelming as they've been, how many of our players comfortably get in all the other bottom half teams? For me it's only Pickford and Branthwaite.
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Unfortunately you're probably right. Even someone like Ndiaye it's likely we got carried away with because we've been so starved of quality in those positions for so long.
 
Zatara said:
Rubbish
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It isn’t mate. He had good games defensively last season, he even had the odd really good game. He also looked painfully limited and had poor/anonymous games as well where he coasted through games invisible man style.

It’s easy to be a fullback in this Dyche set up, you rarely cross the half way line so you’re rarely caught out of position, McNeil last season (and Harrison on the other side) basically played as an extra fullback and gave so much protection/defensive support making it easier to look good as a defender.

He’s had almost 100 games, no assists, no improvement, we need a first choice left back. He can stay if he wants to sit on the bench but he’s not good enough and won’t ever be to be a starting 11 left back for us.
 

BigDuncTributeBand said:
It isn’t mate. He had good games defensively last season, he even had the odd really good game. He also looked painfully limited and had poor/anonymous games as well where he coasted through games invisible man style.

It’s easy to be a fullback in this Dyche set up, you rarely cross the half way line so you’re rarely caught out of position, McNeil last season (and Harrison on the other side) basically played as an extra fullback and gave so much protection/defensive support making it easier to look good as a defender.

He’s had almost 100 games, no assists, no improvement, we need a first choice left back. He can stay if he wants to sit on the bench but he’s not good enough and won’t ever be to be a starting 11 left back for us.
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The fact that you can have some good games but be a poor player in the grand scheme of things just seems to make some people’s heads explode. The lads an experienced international who cost about £20 million he’s obviously not completely useless, but we’ve seen more than enough of him now to know that he’s not very good at this level.
 
Lanolin said:
The fact that you can have some good games but be a poor player in the grand scheme of things just seems to make some people’s heads explode. The lads an experienced international who cost about £20 million he’s obviously not completely useless, but we’ve seen more than enough of him now to know that he’s not very good at this level.
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He has had a fair few injuries since coming in though and I think its knocked the little bit of confidence he had tbh. He just isn't ever going to be what we want him to be, however you can't forget games like when he had Salah in his back pocket during the derby, he was like a man possessed that day.
 
Harryflashman said:
When he first arrived I Thought he was an awful player , changed my opinion a bit last season but I’m back to my original thoughts . The vast majority of his performances in an Everton shirt have been at best championship standard
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That's where I'm at, when he came in thought he looked like he learned to play footy a week ago. With the best will in the world I'm not sure you can have a full back at this level with such poor technique.

A back 3 might suit him in Italy
 
Simon Buttle said:
He has had a fair few injuries since coming in though and I think its knocked the little bit of confidence he had tbh. He just isn't ever going to be what we want him to be, however you can't forget games like when he had Salah in his back pocket during the derby, he was like a man possessed that day.
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That’s what I mean really, we can acknowledge that he can do a really good job at times but that his normal level isn’t that good. I can remember jonjoe kenny having a great game up against raphinha a couple of years ago, Michael Keane looked excellent at times under ancelotti, niasse single handedly won us a game against Bournemouth etc etc, it doesn’t change the fact they aren’t actually good enough overall.
 
Mate he had good games in the low block type games. It’s easy for LB to have a good game when asked to only do 50% of their role. When we did the same thing with Godfrey playing LB, he looked a lot better than Myko ever has
 

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