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VAR

Are you a FAN

  • Yes

    Votes: 126 30.4%

  • Nope

    Votes: 265 63.9%

  • What's VAR

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Pineapple on Toast

    Votes: 21 5.1%
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RFUS said:
It's not the tech at all. If the police have footage of someone clearly committing a crime on CCTV and they ignore it, you don't bin the CCTV. It did its job.

The problem is the refereeing team here in the Prem. I don't know if it's incompetence, some backhanded bribery, an intentional tanking of VAR or a combination of the lot, but it absolutely stinks.
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But if you were the one paying for the CCTV, would you not question whether it was actually worth having if it didn't lead to the outcomes it was installed to achieve? This desire to talk about VAR as if it's a stand alone thing is weird. It's not an intelligent system, it's just a replay which someone can watch. Of course it's the person making the decision who's at fault not the camera, but that goes without saying, people are just complaining about the system.
 
Really the main point we need to focus on is the quality of refereeing...
Time and Time again refs make incompetent or downright dodgy decisions down to not enough experience/ability or big team/media pressure.
Rugby refs set the example, micd up so there decisions are clear and understood,
Actually communicating with the video refs
And have the decency to admit to mistakes rather than hiding behind their bosses and blaming the tech
 
Rugby refs are indeed in another league. However, the TMO is only there in televised games and not in every game in a given competition, is this fair?
 

ClausThomsen said:
This argument has possible merit until you look at something like Firminho's offside against Villa yesterday. It was ridiculous and I seem to recall them being on the wrong end of a dodgy VAR decision against Newcastle a few weeks back.

The application of poor VAR decisions or indecisions has been spread fairly evenly so far.



For me the offside rule needs changing. If the entire ball has to be over a line for it to be out of play or a goal then surely the entire player should have to be offside.
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The 'entire player' being offside wouldn't necessarily solve the problem, not when half an inch of ponytail is arguably onside. lol
 
Surprised that people keep talking about rugby refs as the panacea. Some of the decisions you see in both codes of rugby are farcical, especially the TMO stuff. I think part of it is that the coverage is different, the TV pundits don't make a huge fuss over decisions so it maybe seems less of an issue, but there are often absolute shockers.

I saw one game in the World Cup (Wales v Georgia maybe?) where the referee gave Georgia a penalty advantage while they were attacking. They threw the ball around before the ref called advantage over as Georgia lost the ball. He then went to check whether the Wales player needed a yellow card for a deliberate knock on. It looked like it was, the pundits thought he would be off, but the ref decided actually it hadn't even been a knock on and the game would just continue from where it was. Georgia were understandably furious as Wales now had the ball when they'd been playing safe in the knowledge that they had a penalty to come back to. I won't even talk about rugby league where on field refs never give anything anymore, and video ref decisions are seemingly made by picking them out of a hat.
 
f.t.r.s said:
Cynic in me wonders if the refs are purposely making bad decisions in order to get it binned off and return to the status quo
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somehow i doubt it,as they always come up with something no matter how ridiculous it sounds as to why the decision they give was right
They are basically finding things that are not there to say they were right
 

VAR is a disaster and I genuinely feel it's favouring certain teams and vice versa.

Ourselves and City seem to get had off every week whilst Tottenham and Liverpool reap the benefits (Son red aside, although I personally feel it was deserved).
 
I'm unaware of similar problems happening in other leagues so I'm proposing the outlandish conspiracy theory that these appalling decisions are occurring in order to attract more global media attention to the premier league. The idea that all publicity is good publicity.
 

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