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VAR

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arbok said:
Has anyone gone back and checked how many times VAR has saved Liverpool this season? They've been spamming 1-0's for a while now. I don't feel like other teams have had as many decisions go their way as they have.

In the past it used to be pens but its VAR now.

In Tennis - they let the computer decide if its in or out, wouldn't it be fairer to do it that way instead of having four people squinting at the screen trying to decide if they can get away with giving Liverpool a goal.

The fairest way would be for the ref to decide if they need to use the replay or not, then when he goes to the TV monitor have it shown on the big screen so everyone can see it.
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It would be good reading to see all the Var errors this season. It's not just about liverpool, how many other teams have been impacted
 

I can think of two that have gone against Liverpool. The Villa offside goal. He was flagged offside already so if any part of his body was offside it was not "clear and obvious" he was onside, so that decision rightly stood as his was shown to be offside.

Origi being "fouled" at Old Trafford. That's the only one for me that's gone against them and even then its 50/50.

To me there is no table that will take into account the lack of time taken on checks, for example 4 minutes on an offside, (Sheffield United) and the 2 angled glance of Van Dijk pushing Calvert-Lewin. The 2 second glance of Salah being offside against City. Seeing handballs that weren't given against Liverpool despite checks, which were more a case of being handball than the one they were rewarded in the European Cup final.

This current Liverpool side is not the greatest team English football has ever seen, yet their numbers are getting to that stage. Something is not adding up to me.
 
arbok said:
Has anyone gone back and checked how many times VAR has saved Liverpool this season? They've been spamming 1-0's for a while now. I don't feel like other teams have had as many decisions go their way as they have.

In the past it used to be pens but its VAR now.

In Tennis - they let the computer decide if its in or out, wouldn't it be fairer to do it that way instead of having four people squinting at the screen trying to decide if they can get away with giving Liverpool a goal.

The fairest way would be for the ref to decide if they need to use the replay or not, then when he goes to the TV monitor have it shown on the big screen so everyone can see it.
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The refs were looking at monitors and had the final decision when it was trialed here and although VAR wasn't seen as great or ideal it was (when refs made the ultimate assessment and decision) more acceptable.

Now we have the very real situation where 4 anonymous people are making a number of outrageous decisions that have determined the destination of this season's title.

The 2019/20 season is a bogus one. History will view it as illegitimate. There really should be an asterisk after the name of Liverpool when the winners name is shown in the record books.
 

I believe that if an official, usually a linesman, suspected an offside but wasn't certain he was required to give the forward the benefit of the doubt pre Var.
There may be a case to apply this where the margins on Var are so small and we don't have the technology to indicate the exact moment that the ball was
kicked.

Similarly with cricket dismissals, I wonder how many results, and trophies would have been different pre Var and the cricket equivalent.
 
Stewart Robson made a suggestion on ESPN a few minutes ago which could make VAR offside decisions less controversial and fairer. His idea is to
make the line wider. Then, if the furthest parts of the bodies fall within that line it's onside. Robson didn't specify it, but I'm saying that if the line width
was the same as the ground boundary lines that would work. I know some will argue that even if it's offside by a millimetre it's offside, but I'm saying that
the technology as it's applied now isn't 100% accurate and at worst it will fall within the old guidelines of the benefit of the doubt.
Incidentally, Robson thinks that the Wolves goal should have stood.
 
Though i am no fan of this VAR and have said it since the start that it would cause way more problems that it sorts out,for me the bit said yesterday that if a forwards foot is behind the line,but if the forwards arm/head/chest/knee etc is over that line,for me that should be onside as you know the forward is always getting ready to run forward while the defender is trying to go other way to catch that forward offside,i would be surprised as hell if they got rid of VAR as we know they wont at all with it been new
 

Okay I’m really really confused.. Baldy head on Sky Sports said Liverpool goal counts cos it was to far back and 2 players has touched since the hand ball, yet Brighton goal was offside despite 7 different ppl touching the ball... make ur mind up
 
Jeff Jones said:
I believe that if an official, usually a linesman, suspected an offside but wasn't certain he was required to give the forward the benefit of the doubt pre Var.
There may be a case to apply this where the margins on Var are so small and we don't have the technology to indicate the exact moment that the ball was
kicked.

Similarly with cricket dismissals, I wonder how many results, and trophies would have been different pre Var and the cricket equivalent.
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cricket has umpires call, means that if only half or less of the ball is hitting the stumps on Hawkeye, they stick with the original decision
 

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