VAR

[MikeB1980]

Yeah the demise of Refs in the PL coincided with Riley's appointment.

When you have one of the worst as the Head of Refs, no wonder the game is being ruined by bad officiating.

Not just one of the worst, but one of the most spineless to boot.

 

[Ring master]

At a Shareholders’ meeting today, the implementation of VAR was discussed at length and the Premier League and PGMOL committed to improving the consistency of decisions, speeding up processes and increasing communication to fans.

PGMOL managing director Mike Riley addressed the clubs and accepted improvement is required. While VAR is an ongoing process and has corrected a significant number of on-field errors, he explained that speed and consistency of decision-making are priority areas of work and will improve as the officials become more experienced with the technology and protocols. The clear and obvious test was reaffirmed for subjective decisions to narrow the area of debate.

Going forward, and working within the IFAB protocol, there will be increased information made available to attending fans and viewers watching around the world. This will explain in more detail what is being checked. Importantly, the Premier League will continue to show the definitive clip or image for all overturned decisions in stadia, and remains the only major European League to do so.

The policy of using the Referee Review Area was discussed and it was reemphasised that it would be reserved for unseen incidents, or when information from the VAR is outside the expectation range of the referee. Ensuring the pace and tempo of Premier League football remains an important focus for clubs.

The core principles of VAR were reiterated. These are minimum interference for maximum benefit, maintaining the pace and tempo of Premier League football and correcting clear and obvious on-field errors.

Clubs strongly represented the views of their supporters and agreed VAR should be under constant review. Research will now take place with fans, and other relevant stakeholders, to understand their views on how the application of VAR could be best improved

 

[Grinch]

Interesting little post. Its all within point of each other even at this point but we would be in top 10 by ESPN calculations if VAR wasnt a thing.

 

[d34noj]

Interesting little post. Its all within point of each other even at this point but we would be in top 10 by ESPN calculations if VAR wasnt a thing.

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Don't believe that table for a minute.

 

[DOMNOLAN]

Interesting little post. Its all within point of each other even at this point but we would be in top 10 by ESPN calculations if VAR wasnt a thing.

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It’s because they don’t do it as “if VAR had got the correct decisions”. They just do it as “VAR”. So technically we still don’t get the points at Tottenham because VAR wasn’t used.

Also, you have to factor in stuff like with the Liverpool city game, that first handball is actually a 2 goal swing, as well as changing who is in the lead early on in the match. But they will only class that as “1 goal” difference and conclude that VAR had no influence on the game. (Even though since VAR wasn’t used, it wouldn’t count anyway in their table).

Edit: so take these tables with a pinch of salt (that’s why liVARpool are top of this one)

 

[Lanolin]

It’s because they don’t do it as “if VAR had got the correct decisions”. They just do it as “VAR”. So technically we still don’t get the points at Tottenham because VAR wasn’t used.

Also, you have to factor in stuff like with the Liverpool city game, that first handball is actually a 2 goal swing, as well as changing who is in the lead early on in the match. But they will only class that as “1 goal” difference and conclude that VAR had no influence on the game. (Even though since VAR wasn’t used, it wouldn’t count anyway in their table).

Edit: so take these tables with a pinch of salt (that’s why liVARpool are top of this one)

The other thing with these alternative tables is they can never take into account the longer term effects of an incorrect decision. Like for us, there's this massive monkey on our back about never coming from behind to win and also having really poor away form. If we don't concede that pen at Brighton we could have won consecutive aways, come from behind to win a game, and be on a 5 game unbeaten run having taken 13 points to absolutely shoot us up the table. The difference that could make to confidence levels and belief in the squad and manager as we come into a tough run of games is immeasurable really.

 

[marsh]

Never mind trying to make changes to it just swerve it altogether

 

[marsh]

I see they disallowed sterling's goal that looked onside but didn't even properly check Salahs close onside call goal 2 weeks ago

 

[Wayno]

Is there actually a valid reason why they don’t check VAR at Anfield properly or not? Hilarious seeing the goals scrutinised today after last week lol

 

[davek]

30 years without a title...it's been weaponised to hand that lot the title when they couldn't get one by legal means.

There is not a chance that under the old ref based system enough of them would have had the audacity to hand them 15 points or so to hand them a title lead of this nature.

Not a chance.

The PL title is worthless this season. It's simply a corrupted competition.

 

[MikeB1980]

European Cup was the rumbalows cup because they won it, the league is worthless because they look set to win it.

you make yourself look a dope with this stuff.

That said, VAR is rubbish and Sterling looked onside to me just now on motd.

 

[The Night King]

European Cup was the rumbalows cup because they won it, the league is worthless because they look set to win it.

you make yourself look a dope with this stuff.

That said, VAR is rubbish and Sterling looked onside to me just now on motd.

Agreed - that was very harsh. Must have been literally millimetres in it!

 

[The Night King]

The other thing with these alternative tables is they can never take into account the longer term effects of an incorrect decision. Like for us, there's this massive monkey on our back about never coming from behind to win and also having really poor away form. If we don't concede that pen at Brighton we could have won consecutive aways, come from behind to win a game, and be on a 5 game unbeaten run having taken 13 points to absolutely shoot us up the table. The difference that could make to confidence levels and belief in the squad and manager as we come into a tough run of games is immeasurable really.

So, one decision going against us in an away game caused the team to drop points at home to a struggling Spurs team and also crumble again against the bottom of the league side?

Says more about the mental strength of this group of players than anything else...

 

[Lanolin]

So, one decision going against us in an away game caused the team to drop points at home to a struggling Spurs team and also crumble again against the bottom of the league side?

Says more about the mental strength of this group of players than anything else...

Probably says more about you being a kopite bellend than anything else to be honest mate.

 

[The Night King]

Probably says more about you being a kopite bellend than anything else to be honest mate.

Someone applies logic and you don't like it so you throw out that old chestnut. Well done.

Let's look at it your way then. Maybe there was a decision went against us middle of last season that was to blame for so many poor performances second half of last season?

Which decision to blame for the loss at Villa - maybe something in pre-season??

Grow up.