Usmanov

[Goat]

Usmanov is not the owner of Everton FC, so sponsorship and other funding does not upset FFP. Moshiri is the owner and it is there doubts could arise if he gave the club money.

You can sponsor your own team.

What you cant do is inflate the deals beyond a fair market price.

 

[sportset]

SORRY, but I do not think we are squeaky clean in all of this. Look at Saracens, everyone trying to bend the rules.

 

[riddick]

You can sponsor your own team.

What you cant do is inflate the deals beyond a fair market price.

Right, but if you don't own the team you can pay whatever you want for that, no?

 

[Goat]

SORRY, but I do not think we are squeaky clean in all of this. Look at Saracens, everyone trying to bend the rules.

Bending the rules is something everybody does, its when you break them thats when the issues come.

 

[sportset]

Bending the rules is something everybody does, its when you break them thats when the issues come.

Okay, hope we do not caught breaking them - FINE LINE!

 

[Goat]

Right, but if you don't own the team you can pay whatever you want for that, no?

Im not sure mate, but im sure they have some rules about it.

They will investigate all deals that breach fair market policy, regardless of ownership.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Right, but if you don't own the team you can pay whatever you want for that, no?

"Fair Market Value" still comes into it - however imo its harder to hit someone with punishment when its not the clubs owner sponsering themselves.

Obviously Usmanov is a bit of middle ground in that he's not a completely seperate organisation as he's Moshiri's business partner however I think we are more likely to raise eyebrows but get away with it than if Usmanov was actually our owner / involved in the day to day running of the club.

 

[matty1878]

"Fair Market Value" still comes into it - however imo its harder to hit someone with punishment when its not the clubs owner sponsering themselves.

Obviously Usmanov is a bit of middle ground in that he's not a completely seperate organisation as he's Moshiri's business partner however I think we are more likely to raise eyebrows but get away with it than if Usmanov was actually our owner / involved in the day to day running of the club.

So we’re still minted?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

So we’re still minted?

Oh yes sir.

 

[Toffeelover]

You can sponsor your own team.

What you cant do is inflate the deals beyond a fair market price.

Goat, Usmanov does not have a team

 

[Goat]

Goat, Usmanov does not have a team

Moshiri does tho mate.

USM and Megafon are all companies he part owns.

 

[PeregrineT]

The reason City got banned wasnt even that they inflated deals beyond their fair market value. The reason they got banned is they lied about what the actual deals were. In other words, they said "we received 60 million in this inflated deal" and they actually only received 50 million when the books were checked.

 

[everton fan number one]

The reason City got banned wasnt even that they inflated deals beyond their fair market value. The reason they got banned is they lied about what the actual deals were. In other words, they said "we received 60 million in this inflated deal" and they actually only received 50 million when the books were checked.

This. Also didn't the money come from Sheik Mansour's account and not Etihad's as falsely declared.

 

[Archie Knox]

The reason City got banned wasnt even that they inflated deals beyond their fair market value. The reason they got banned is they lied about what the actual deals were. In other words, they said "we received 60 million in this inflated deal" and they actually only received 50 million when the books were checked.

Or in their case they said they said they received 200m and actually received 50m.

 

[everton fan number one]

You can sponsor your own team.

What you cant do is inflate the deals beyond a fair market price.

The issue with Man City seems to be the misreporting of the source of money into the club in their accounts submitted to uefa. Man City reported that income came directly from etihad when in fact came from Mansour, and also later payments were backdated falsely to earlier years in the sponsoship falsely.This was the issue rather than the sponsorship not being fair market value.Though they may have been investigated initially due to suspicions over whether or not the deals were of fair market value, the misreporting was what led to the much harsher sanctions. Or so I took it.