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Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
I didn't even think he was that bad at the weekend

Not his best performance but he's still learning and Spurs are a top side

We need to manage our expectations and let him develop, mistakes and all
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He was playing basically nowhere as well. For some bizarre reason our manager saw fit to throw a 36 year old crippled arl fella into the position that he's been playing so well in.
 
mikeh72 said:
He was playing basically nowhere as well. For some bizarre reason our manager saw fit to throw a 36 year old crippled arl fella into the position that he's been playing so well in.
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At the end of the day, there's mitigating circumstances for why he wasn't 10 out of 10 at the weekend and, due to his age and experience, he should be graded on a curve anyway

Anyone using Sunday as evidence that he isn't up to it are barking up the wrong tree IMO

Again, if he's benched for a couple of games and comes on for 20-30 minutes, then that's not the end of the world, but it's way too early to start commentating either way on where he'll end up. He needs time, he needs experience and, most of all, he needs patience from us both online and in the stands
 
catcherintherye said:
I think that's fair. We are looking at an 18 year old as well so it goes without saying he has to do better.

Look at all of our other midfielders, McCarthy, Schneiderlin, Gueye- however well they have done they are far from the complete players.

I think Davies will do fine. I've watched him from when he was a young player and never felt he'd be at Barkleys levels and has pleasantly surprised me. At Everton we have a tendency to want every player to be as good as Rooney. Bringing through local lads, even if they end up as squad men has an awful lot of merit. Be honest would you prefer to see squad positions filled by local lads like Davies, or players like Cleverley or to an extent your Nevilles of this world.

Alex Fergusan did many things very well, but understood having local lads brought through as squad players had an enormous value. Nicky Butt and Phil Neville got over 80 caps and many league medals from doing this.
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I agree with you mate. Davies has completely surprised me how quickly, and easily, he has taken to the Premier league. He really has the lot as a midfielder, it's hard to believe he is only 18. He is very composed and comfortable on the ball, he plays with his head up, he is a good passer and looks for the early forward ball, he is two footed, he has an eye for goal, he can put his foot in, he can beat a player, his movement is good and he has a good engine in him. Above all, he seems to have his head on his shoulders and a really good attitude. I don't know where Davek is coming from when he say's he doesn't excel in any one area and I've asked him the question.

Having said all that, he's still only 18 and needs to have the proper balance of game time and rest. I personally wouldn't have started with him at the weekend. But I don't see a better 18 year old around in the premier league at the moment and I can see him developing into being a full England International of the future, not because of the tosh that often win caps, but because his game suits International football.

I also think it's wrong to compare him with Barkley who has different attributes and, in fairness, a different ceiling potential. I think Ross is one of those one in a generation players and, if he does fulfil his potential will become a world class player. No guarantee he will mind you. Whilst I don't believe Davies is capable of reaching those levels, I do believe he will have a a good career at International level and at a Champions League standard club. Hopefully us.
 
nsno-chris said:
Now that we are all in agreement, i'm gonna prep the lungs for a good boo'in

*breath in
*breath in

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Not enough B's there, you need to let him know you really mean it. I'd be more BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
mikeh72 said:
Not enough B's there, you need to let him know you really mean it. I'd be more BBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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mikeh72 said:
Not enough B's there, you need to let him know you really mean it. I'd be more BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Nothing worse than trying to boo players when you have a stammer. Luckily I grew out of it as I got older.;)
 
Papa Shango said:
Just get rid. he hasn't scored in AGES.

Take Lookman with him too.

Pair of losers.
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An upper bullens ode to Tom Davies

He came, we saw
he filled us all with hope
now we see for what he is
a floppy haired young dope

pull your socks up, tuck shirt in
look like you know what you are doing
10 out of 10 every week
or you will be subject to a booing
 
He's not lightning quick which means he shouldn't really be getting deployed out wide. He was best v City running from deep but he's been pushed further forward to accommodate Gueye and I don't think it suits him.
 
I've seen plenty of times before where players are thrown out in a midfield blob and fail to perform to standard. You can't be expected to perform at your best when there's 3 other lads tasked with doing the exact same thing as you, you trip over each other. I think the Spurs game was almost entirely down to Koeman's muddled system and lack of clarity.
 
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