Yeah I think it's Italy that will overtake England in the coefficients or whatever they do to decide the places.
Just don't get it, City always choke, United seem to get found out, just don't think Arsenal have the squad to go as far, and Chelsea may surprise but the way they've started the season i'd be impressed if they got out the groups.
Arsenal will do what they always do, finish second in the group when they should have finished first before getting roasted in the knock out rounds by the first decent side they face. They'll get hammered in the first leg and then make an impassioned, but ultimately fruitless, attempt in the second leg before going out by an odd goal
