Today’s Football 2022/23 Season

[St James]

Their biggest hurdle will be convincing world class talent to relocate to the north-east wastelands instead of the bright lights of London, Paris, Madrid or even here in the north-west football community.

Let's be realistic, from take of to landing, a helicopter flight takes 58 mins from Newcastle to central London, 42 mins from Newcastle to Manchester, It takes less time than it does for an Everton player to get from their house in Manchester to Finch Farm.

 

[PhilM]

Let's be realistic, from take of to landing, a helicopter flight takes 58 mins from Newcastle to central London, 42 mins from Newcastle to Manchester, It takes less time than it does for an Everton player to get from their house in Manchester to Finch Farm.

What about the commute from their property to the airport? The major heliport for London is at Battersea, as London City in the most prohibits rotary aircraft.

It's typical and in-and-out job, therefore no loitering allowed. This impacts on its functionality as a daily use facility for those who live in or around central London.

Otherwise, you're out near Essex or RAF Northolt if you want to use a whirlybird on a daily basis, which brings about the logistics of using them regularly.

So while it's typically 58 minutes point to point, you've got to factor in commute time to the port in London and the same at the other end alongside wait times.

Night flights are typically a no-go, so for flying down for the evening isn't practical unless you're willing to stay over - again, more commune time and expense.

For a daily commute, it would be likely be closer to two hours each way, if not more, so you're looking at a lot of time each day commuting in a noisy beat.

It ain't practical, hence why most people simply don't do it, even if they're far more wealthy than your average wealthy footballer.

 

[St James]

What about the commute from their property to the airport? The major heliport for London is at Battersea, as London City in the most prohibits rotary aircraft.

It's typical and in-and-out job, therefore no loitering allowed. This impacts on its functionality as a daily use facility for those who live in or around central London.

Otherwise, you're out near Essex or RAF Northolt if you want to use a whirlybird on a daily basis, which brings about the logistics of using them regularly.

So while it's typically 58 minutes point to point, you've got to factor in commute time to the port in London and the same at the other end alongside wait times.

Night flights are typically a no-go, so for flying down for the evening isn't practical unless you're willing to stay over - again, more commune time and expense.

For a daily commute, it would be likely be closer to two hours each way, if not more, so you're looking at a lot of time each day commuting in a noisy beat.

It ain't practical, hence why most people simply don't do it, even if they're far more wealthy than your average wealthy footballer.

Do you not realise helicopters flying domestic flights don't need to use airports?

 

[St James]

What about the commute from their property to the airport? The major heliport for London is at Battersea, as London City in the most prohibits rotary aircraft.

It's typical and in-and-out job, therefore no loitering allowed. This impacts on its functionality as a daily use facility for those who live in or around central London.

Otherwise, you're out near Essex or RAF Northolt if you want to use a whirlybird on a daily basis, which brings about the logistics of using them regularly.

So while it's typically 58 minutes point to point, you've got to factor in commute time to the port in London and the same at the other end alongside wait times.

Night flights are typically a no-go, so for flying down for the evening isn't practical unless you're willing to stay over - again, more commune time and expense.

For a daily commute, it would be likely be closer to two hours each way, if not more, so you're looking at a lot of time each day commuting in a noisy beat.

It ain't practical, hence why most people simply don't do it, even if they're far more wealthy than your average wealthy footballer.

Well in that case maybe you will continue to attract the creme de la creme of the football world and we will struggle to even sign a half decent player over the next 10 years. Time will tell.

 

[daza_1973]

Let's be realistic, from take of to landing, a helicopter flight takes 58 mins from Newcastle to central London, 42 mins from Newcastle to Manchester, It takes less time than it does for an Everton player to get from their house in Manchester to Finch Farm.

A massive carbon footprint to go with your owners human rights indiscretions.
Bring it on.

 

[PhilM]

Do you not realise helicopters flying domestic flights don't need to use airports?

Well, if you're talking about Central or Greater London, they pretty much do unless you have a legislated HLS*, otherwise residents will usually protest quickly.

You're looking at a minimum of 550m2 space alone, a minimum of 30 m from any building and with an approach vector that's both safe and noise compliant.

How many helicopters typically land in Central London in private spaces unless they're royalty/government/diplomats? You'll find, sadly for you, it's very few.

In Greater London, there's a lot more leeway, but you're still needing all the above, which means on private property it's heavily restricted. Open spaces? Nah.

And you still need to go through the CAA to register your HLS if you're willing to use in the long-term, unless you're willing to face litigation for noise and pollution.

Most of the approved HLS sites are way away from Heathrow etc., and a good few miles outside the city as anything over 28 days of annual use requires a permit.

To get a permit for use above 28 days is very, very difficult because of the restrictions mentioned in line one and two. Unless you know otherwise, aye?

*(Registered) Helicopter Landing Sites

 

[Dymak]

Let's be realistic, from take of to landing, a helicopter flight takes 58 mins from Newcastle to central London, 42 mins from Newcastle to Manchester, It takes less time than it does for an Everton player to get from their house in Manchester to Finch Farm.

If you are lucky enough to live the highly privileged life of a footballer, there’s no way you are getting me inside some dodgy bloody helicopter. Hell, I’m a pleb, and you still wouldn’t find me getting in a bloody helicopter.

Are helicopter commutes all that popular amongst professional footballers, or anyone at all for that matter?

 

[Rita_Poon]

Let's be realistic, from take of to landing, a helicopter flight takes 58 mins from Newcastle to central London, 42 mins from Newcastle to Manchester, It takes less time than it does for an Everton player to get from their house in Manchester to Finch Farm.

erm...

 

[Jimishorts]

Well, if you're talking about Central or Greater London, they pretty much do unless you have a legislated HLS*, otherwise residents will usually protest quickly.

You're looking at a minimum of 550m2 space alone, a minimum of 30 m from any building and with an approach vector that's both safe and noise compliant.

How many helicopters typically land in Central London in private spaces unless they're royalty/government/diplomats? You'll find, sadly for you, it's very few.

In Greater London, there's a lot more leeway, but you're still needing all the above, which means on private property it's heavily restricted. Open spaces? Nah.

And you still need to go through the CAA to register your HLS if you're willing to use in the long-term, unless you're willing to face litigation for noise and pollution.

Most of the approved HLS sites are way away from Heathrow etc., and a good few miles outside the city as anything over 28 days of annual use requires a permit.

To get a permit for use above 28 days is very, very difficult because of the restrictions mentioned in line one and two. Unless you know otherwise, aye?

*(Registered) Helicopter Landing Sites

Are you sure Phil? I think the plan is to have Staveley flying around the country like Anneka Rice, flying the crème de la crème of footballing talent from their back gardens to wherever the Saudis tell them to go.

 

[Librarian]

 

[St James]

Well, if you're talking about Central or Greater London, they pretty much do unless you have a legislated HLS*, otherwise residents will usually protest quickly.

You're looking at a minimum of 550m2 space alone, a minimum of 30 m from any building and with an approach vector that's both safe and noise compliant.

How many helicopters typically land in Central London in private spaces unless they're royalty/government/diplomats? You'll find, sadly for you, it's very few.

In Greater London, there's a lot more leeway, but you're still needing all the above, which means on private property it's heavily restricted. Open spaces? Nah.

And you still need to go through the CAA to register your HLS if you're willing to use in the long-term, unless you're willing to face litigation for noise and pollution.

Most of the approved HLS sites are way away from Heathrow etc., and a good few miles outside the city as anything over 28 days of annual use requires a permit.

To get a permit for use above 28 days is very, very difficult because of the restrictions mentioned in line one and two. Unless you know otherwise, aye?

*(Registered) Helicopter Landing Sites

You can be out of a car and on a helicopter within a few minutes at Edmiston anyway, nothing like the transit times claimed.

Home | London Heliport | Enabling helicopter travel for 50+ years

Enabling helicopter travel for VIPs & the business community for 50+ years. Heliport Located on the Thames south bank. Charter for business or pleasure.

www.londonheliport.co.uk

 

[Billy Dean]

My man was bragging about how we lost less badly to Newcastle.

I think in England keeping it tight at the back and scraping results is deeply ingrained in the football culture as something honourable. If 2 hypothetical teams got an identical number of points in a season, one playing open football scoring and conceding lots, the other with tight 1-0 games for or against, I reckon about 70% of English fans would view the latter more favourably.

Not referring to any particular posters on here, just a general comment.

 

[daza_1973]

he really needs a girlfriend

 

[PhilM]

You can be out of a car and on a helicopter within a few minutes at Edmiston anyway, nothing like the transit times claimed.

Home | London Heliport | Enabling helicopter travel for 50+ years

Enabling helicopter travel for VIPs & the business community for 50+ years. Heliport Located on the Thames south bank. Charter for business or pleasure.

www.londonheliport.co.uk

That’s Battersea (London Heliport).

Genuine question: have you ever worked with people who use it regularly? From somewhere like Kensington Palace or Mayfair (3-4miles) it’s 30 minutes.

If you’re further afield, Hampstead is popular for footballers, you can be looking at 50 minutes during peak. It’s not a common thing due to it.

 

[arch stanton]

Do you not realise helicopters flying domestic flights don't need to use airports?

this is witchcraft