Tim Howard

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Southern Yankee toffee said:
Your right the British know everything about soccer. Have had 100 years head start to do worse in the past 10 years internationally than we have.

Americans can now watch more Everton games than the British can. Get better, objective reporting on soccer than the British do and quite frankly; have been and will be a better steward for the game than the British are.
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Lost me at soccer...
 

Hopefully he stays 'injured' for a while and then Martinez sneaks him back in on the bench saying Robles has shown too much to be dropped. Never want to see him play in goal for us again but also don't fancy Stanek or Griffiths making their professional debut in the premier league if something happens to Joel.
 
Perhaps in small way this is Martinez dropping howard without calling it that.

Call him injured, actually just be giving him time off / personal time / etc something like that, give robles his chance in goal and then he can't be held up if robles then under performs.
 
Ashtonian said:
Perhaps in small way this is Martinez dropping howard without calling it that.

Call him injured, actually just be giving him time off / personal time / etc something like that, give robles his chance in goal and then he can't be held up if robles then under performs.
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He's dropped. No question in my mind. It should have been done weeks ago.
 
Southern Yankee toffee said:
Your right the British know everything about soccer. Have had 100 years head start to do worse in the past 10 years internationally than we have.

Americans can now watch more Everton games than the British can. Get better, objective reporting on soccer than the British do and quite frankly; have been and will be a better steward for the game than the British are.
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is this Moores, or Noell?
 
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So if he's been dropped does that mean it's likely that a deal has been agreed with Colorado Rapids? I can't understand any other reason why Martinez was so adamant about keeping him as first choice and suddenly he's not in the team at all.

Possibly we wanted to put him in the shop window and now a move is lined up we don't need to any more.
 
davek said:
He's dropped. No question in my mind. It should have been done weeks ago.
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I certainly hope so. If he has dropped him in this way I have to say it has been tactfully done. Clearly Howard is well liked and respected around the club and has had his pride hurt enormously. Being dropped unceremoniously would have been a final insult. He was never my cup of tea but he has been a good servant for the club and hopefully could still be an asset going forward.

I love Howard Kendall but the way Southall left was a bit of a tragedy really and wasn't handled very well.

A lot of people hate Howard. I have come close to that at times. I think he's played a central role in messing up particularly this season but also last season. However nobody deserves some of the hatred that is coming his way. I also think had he been dropped lots of fans would justifiably want to rub his nose in it. The injury ruse is a nice way of fazing him out and cushioning the blow and a nice touch overall.
 
Coffee and TV said:
So if he's been dropped does that mean it's likely that a deal has been agreed with Colorado Rapids? I can't understand any other reason why Martinez was so adamant about keeping him as first choice and suddenly he's not in the team at all.

Possibly we wanted to put him in the shop window and now a move is lined up we don't need to any more.
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I think it's partially this, and partially standing up for a guy that's given a lot to the club over the years. I guess we can disagree whether Tim deserves any respect, but most would say objectively he's been good for the club generally, thanks for the good years of service, now it's time to move on. And i'm sure behind closed doors that's the conversations they've had this season. Now that Robles has proven he doesn't have those apocalyptic errors in his game any more during the Cup runs, he's earned the right to get a run of games see if he's the future. I think Bob's just protecting whatever legacy Tim might have left and giving him a soft landing out the door. Which is why he's saying things like Tim was the first person to greet Joel upon learning Joel is starting at Stoke, showing he's a team player, etc
 
catcherintherye said:
I certainly hope so. If he has dropped him in this way I have to say it has been tactfully done. Clearly Howard is well liked and respected around the club and has had his pride hurt enormously. Being dropped unceremoniously would have been a final insult. He was never my cup of tea but he has been a good servant for the club and hopefully could still be an asset going forward.

I love Howard Kendall but the way Southall left was a bit of a tragedy really and wasn't handled very well.

A lot of people hate Howard. I have come close to that at times. I think he's played a central role in messing up particularly this season but also last season. However nobody deserves some of the hatred that is coming his way. I also think had he been dropped lots of fans would justifiably want to rub his nose in it. The injury ruse is a nice way of fazing him out and cushioning the blow and a nice touch overall.
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Exactly this
 
catcherintherye said:
I certainly hope so. If he has dropped him in this way I have to say it has been tactfully done. Clearly Howard is well liked and respected around the club and has had his pride hurt enormously. Being dropped unceremoniously would have been a final insult. He was never my cup of tea but he has been a good servant for the club and hopefully could still be an asset going forward.

I love Howard Kendall but the way Southall left was a bit of a tragedy really and wasn't handled very well.

A lot of people hate Howard. I have come close to that at times. I think he's played a central role in messing up particularly this season but also last season. However nobody deserves some of the hatred that is coming his way. I also think had he been dropped lots of fans would justifiably want to rub his nose in it. The injury ruse is a nice way of fazing him out and cushioning the blow and a nice touch overall.
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Or he's just injured.
 

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