Tim Howard

[Joey66]

If you pledge to never ever post a statistic in here again, I will too. The problem is, people keep posting statistics that are either drastically out of date or just flat out wrong, and then get really upset when the correct and relevant ones are posted to counter them.

Just use your eyes as you state watching Tim perform then!
Tims cost us points in many ways already listed by most posters bar you, an a few others the majority on here think he is poor last season, and this season !

 

[Goat]

If you pledge to never ever post a statistic in here again, I will too. The problem is, people keep posting statistics that are either drastically out of date or just flat out wrong, and then get really upset when the correct and relevant ones are posted to counter them.

Howards last clean sheet was 27th March 2011, thats not a stat, its a FACT.

 

[Kurt.]

Too bad they don't this season.

Seriously, show me the statistics that show Howard as the worst goalkeeper in the league this season. Please.

my eyes tell me... I never do stats....................and statistically im never wrong

 

[Joey66]

Howards last clean sheet was 27th March 2011, thats not a stat, its a FACT.

Did he not keep a clean sheet away from home v Spurs this season ?

 

[Zatara]

I think theres some confusion here.

It's clear that Howard is now a dreadful keeper. No one is disputing that.

However, what @mlyons is saying is that there are also other dreadful keepers in the premier league. Both sunderland keepers have been dropped and Pickford recalled as they were so bad, Guzan at villa has beenshocking, Ruddy was dropped and then punched someone in the face on a night out....

So basically what he's saying is that the keepers in the league apart from a few stars like De Gea,Butland,Cech,Courtois,Hart are actually at a low standard this season and due to this Howard is probably below average and possibly not the worst around.

If were talking about signing top quality in the outfield then we shouldnt be talking about a 30year old cardiff keeper. I think Martinez is going to sign a superstar but prioritising Yarmolenko this window.

 

[Goat]

I think theres some confusion here.

It's clear that Howard is now a dreadful keeper. No one is disputing that.

However, what @mlyons is saying is that there are also other dreadful keepers in the premier league. Both sunderland keepers have been dropped and Pickford recalled as they were so bad, Guzan at villa has beenshocking, Ruddy was dropped and then punched someone in the face on a night out....

So basically what he's saying is that the keepers in the league apart from a few stars like De Gea,Butland,Cech,Courtois,Hart are actually at a low standard this season and due to this Howard is probably below average and possibly not the worst around.

If were talking about signing top quality in the outfield then we shouldnt be talking about a 30year old cardiff keeper. I think Martinez is going to sign a superstar but prioritising Yarmolenko this window.

The only confusion is that most people would rather play that cat in goal then Howard.

David Marshall isnt the best keeper in the world, but hes solid and cheap, him and Robles could fight it out for a place, but it doesnt really matter, cos Martinez has stated that Howard will retain his place as number 1 keeper till his contract expires in 2018.

 

[Zatara]

The only confusion is that most people would rather play that cat in goal then Howard.

David Marshall isnt the best keeper in the world, but hes solid and cheap, him and Robles could fight it out for a place, but it doesnt really matter, cos Martinez has stated that Howard will retain his place as number 1 keeper till his contract expires in 2018.

I think he'll be gone in the summer BUT not sure if the MLS window is open then?

Seems to me that Martinez is trying to shift players out now to free up wages/space for either new players or increased contracts.

Also seems like were linked with Yarmolenko so heavily now thats still his main target and will use the money on him + keeper then postponed till summer.

I think he'll go for a top keeper on summer, none of these average players. You only have to look at the top sides to see what a difference one can make.

 

[Goat]

I think he'll be gone in the summer BUT not sure if the MLS window is open then?

Seems to me that Martinez is trying to shift players out now to free up wages/space for either new players or increased contracts.

Also seems like were linked with Yarmolenko so heavily now thats still his main target and will use the money on him + keeper then postponed till summer.

I think he'll go for a top keeper on summer, none of these average players. You only have to look at the top sides to see what a difference one can make.

The only real link to Yarmolenko is a crap story in the Daily Fail, its wrong to suggest we are heavily linked.

 

[Zatara]

The only real link to Yarmolenko is a crap story in the Daily Fail, its wrong to suggest we are heavily linked.

True, but lets see. This week i think we should see some action wth naismith and then Martinez says we will be stronger every window so lets see...

 

[MikeH72]

Is he worse than average, or abysmal? I agree with worse than average (relative to the Premier League), but if you think he's abysmal, you're using that word in a way that doesn't make any sense to me.

So you absolutely refuse to admit that there are goalkeepers in the Premier League worse than Howard, then? Guzan? Ruddy? Boruc?

Ruddy and Boruc are no longer first choice, you can't really include them. Along with Guzan, Howard is most definitely the worst FIRST CHOICE keeper in the league, no question

 

[bluestevon]

The only real link to Yarmolenko is a crap story in the Daily Fail, its wrong to suggest we are heavily linked.

The jouno who ran that story is the one who broke the Deulofeu story before anyone had a sniff though, so may have some contacts at the club, least he isn't as bad as the rest of them...

This is just one story that doesn't seem to be going away, IF we do put that 30m euro bid in then we will get him i believe.

if we dont end up getting him he will be my Moutinho though lol...

 

[mkrudden]

Ruddy and Boruc are no longer first choice, you can't really include them. Along with Guzan, Howard is most definitely the worst FIRST CHOICE keeper in the league, no question

Throw in Mignolet and make it a trio.

 

[Baines' left foot]

Tim Coward ahahahaha.

 

[Ralphie Boy]

[Poor language removed], he's still here.

Thought as this thread was getting some input he was going..........

 

[mlyons]

Ruddy and Boruc are no longer first choice, you can't really include them. Along with Guzan, Howard is most definitely the worst FIRST CHOICE keeper in the league, no question

You think Federici (Boruc's replacement) is better than Howard? Really?