Current Affairs Tim Farron resigns.....

[Bruce Wayne]

Will have another one in the blink of an eye mate.

Chin up.

You're joking? Not another one. I can't take it.

 

[roydo]

You're joking? Not another one. I can't take it.

We had another one on Monday mate. Some council stuff apparently.

Voted "Not Arsed".

 

[jal123]

I see Jo Swinson is favourite to become the next leader. I must say, having spoken to her a few times, she's a nice enough person but I wouldn't have put her down as a future prime minister in a million years.

Nothing to worry about there then Bats

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

You're joking? Not another one. I can't take it.

This is were I'm at to right now to. I've had enough elections and "This is the biggest decision this country has faced in decades" votes in the last couple of years to last me a lifetime. I reckon the Tory/DUP coalition will last longer then most people seem to think though.

 

[harris78]

Massive long shot but i would like to see Layla Moran as the next leader. Every time i have heard her speak i've been suitably impressed.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Massive long shot but i would like to see Layla Moran as the next leader. Every time i have heard her speak i've been suitably impressed.

It's at least 12/1 I'd have thought

 

[harris78]

It's at least 12/1 I'd have thought

Not even looked to be honest Bruce but i would say possibly even higher, must be a massive outsider.

Edit: I've just checked and lowest is 25/1 and going out to 50/1

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Not even looked to be honest Bruce but i would say possibly even higher, must be a massive outsider.

Edit: I've just checked and lowest is 25/1 and going out to 50/1

It's a joke innit. Only 12 MPs to choose from.

 

[trebilcock66]

There's a long road back for the Lib Dems. Last week was a reasonable start I suppose but far more could have been made of Tory disarray and Corbyn's achilee's heel - that he's a return to Derek Hatton/Michael Foot/sending people redundancy notice by taxi etc etc.

From here, the centre ground looks wide open. Tories will go right to keep DUP and their Brexit-loving backbenchers happy. (Seems to me May will do just about anything to stay in power - no moral compass that I can see at all). Labour are heading left under JC and some seem to like it.

Which leaves the remainers and middle-of-the-roaders unrepresented. Big opportunity really but a long slog via by-election victories and winning council seats etc. Territory that the Lib Dems know well - that's how they won Kingston-upon-Thames, Leeds, Liverpool Edge Hill etc. Probably Tim Farron is not the man to do that. Vince maybe.

I've been an old-fashioned Liberal all my life - my political heroes are Jo Grimond and Jeremy Thorpe. Been waiting for a reforming government for 50 years. In the 80's I dreamed of David Steel as PM. Which looks weird from here. Then in 2010 I thought that we'd eventually made it to the top table. Thanks a lot Nick Clegg - you blew it.

I'll probably remain (sorry) disappointed now until I die. It's a long road back but the opportunity is there.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There's a long road back for the Lib Dems. Last week was a reasonable start I suppose but far more could have been made of Tory disarray and Corbyn's achilee's heel - that he's a return to Derek Hatton/Michael Foot/sending people redundancy notice by taxi etc etc.

From here, the centre ground looks wide open. Tories will go right to keep DUP and their Brexit-loving backbenchers happy. (Seems to me May will do just about anything to stay in power - no moral compass that I can see at all). Labour are heading left under JC and some seem to like it.

Which leaves the remainers and middle-of-the-roaders unrepresented. Big opportunity really but a long slog via by-election victories and winning council seats etc. Territory that the Lib Dems know well - that's how they won Kingston-upon-Thames, Leeds, Liverpool Edge Hill etc. Probably Tim Farron is not the man to do that. Vince maybe.

I've been an old-fashioned Liberal all my life - my political heroes are Jo Grimond and Jeremy Thorpe. Been waiting for a reforming government for 50 years. In the 80's I dreamed of David Steel as PM. Which looks weird from here. Then in 2010 I thought that we'd eventually made it to the top table. Thanks a lot Nick Clegg - you blew it.

I'll probably remain (sorry) disappointed now until I die. It's a long road back but the opportunity is there.

Complicated though isn't it? I mean look at Richmond. A Brexit protest vote saw Goldsmith dumped out of his seat, yet he won it back a few months later in the general election. Absolutely nothing had really changed in that time, but whatever the LD did, their appeal to that demographic failed to materialise during the election.

 

[neil999]

Complicated though isn't it? I mean look at Richmond. A Brexit protest vote saw Goldsmith dumped out of his seat, yet he won it back a few months later in the general election. Absolutely nothing had really changed in that time, but whatever the LD did, their appeal to that demographic failed to materialise during the election.

wasnt there more of an alliance against goldsmith in the by-election?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

wasnt there more of an alliance against goldsmith in the by-election?

I thought it was an anti-Brexit alliance though essentially. In the GE Brexit seemed to play very little part in the campaigns.

 

[peteblue]

I see Jo Swinson is favourite to become the next leader. I must say, having spoken to her a few times, she's a nice enough person but I wouldn't have put her down as a future prime minister in a million years.

It'll be a million years before any LD becomes PM.........

 

[peteblue]

The more I think about this, and I admit that I have no sympathy or time for the LibDems, the more I feel that they are neither liberal nor indeed democratic. Farron himself was willing to override the democratic Brexit vote with his nonsensical 'leaving the single market was not on the ballot form' but to see him hounded out because of his personal religious beliefs proves that liberals are no longer liberal but intolerant........

 

[trebilcock66]

Complicated though isn't it? I mean look at Richmond. A Brexit protest vote saw Goldsmith dumped out of his seat, yet he won it back a few months later in the general election. Absolutely nothing had really changed in that time, but whatever the LD did, their appeal to that demographic failed to materialise during the election.

I agree that it's complicated and messy. Capricious electorate too. General Elections are always different to local by-elections (can still recall youthful hope after Orpington for gods sake!).

But the ground is currently unoccupied....big chance for somebody who can speak for the remainers and reformers. I may as well not vote at all as it stands, I live in a rock solid tory constituency. And I hear nobody articulating anything that is even remotely in that central patch. A lot of work but a huge opportunity. Somebody who can put the facts, the reality and the thinking back into British politics. If only.....