This club is a joke

[Saint Domingo]

For a long time I've felt the players aren't doing enough. How many times have they put in a performance that has surprised us since Martinez's first season? I think more needs to be demanded of them.

I understand what you mean about the people at the top of the club. Considering our status when the Premier League began you cannot help but say we have been run abysmally. They've turned one of the best teams in England into after thought. People will argue but I don't know how Kenwright reflects upon his tenure with anything but shame.

We haven’t had a surprise result for years. They just win enough games against the other dross 13 at home to stay up and then slack off completely.

 

[Frang]

Sure I can see that. How many attempts have we made in the last 25 plus years? And we've never moved forward. You know why? Because our problem wasn't as simple as a bad manager or poor players. Sure we've had both of those things and they didn't help but ultimately they didn't matter and wouldn't of made us good again even if we didn't have those things at the time. Not when defeats like today can just be shrugged off as though it was nothing.

When teams like Crystal Palace can go to Man City and be utterly fearless and get a deserved three points and we go and give such a spineless showing how can we just accept things. Other teams that are far worse then us still get more wins againt "big teams" because they don't just accept defeat before they even take to the field. I'm done pretending that we just have to be patient with the club for just one or two more season and the good times will return. The club I know and love doesn't exist any more as I knew it if we just accept a 6-2 hone defeat againt a side that won't come close to winning the league as anything other then a disgrace that needs to be called such.

the mentality comes from the manager.

we are weak mentally as has been proven on several occasions this season already.

that needs to change as of next game.

cant see it happening

 

[dannyboy]

We haven’t had a surprise result for years. They just win enough games against the other dross 13 at home to stay up and then slack off completely.

We don't even beat the dross with any style. Winning by 1 or 2 goals with performances that just about get us over the line. Feel sorry for the younger fans who must have nothing in terms of memories from going the game.

Nights like United at home in 04/05, Liverpool in the Cup seem to be a distant memory.

 

[Saint Domingo]

We don't even beat the dross with any style. Winning by 1 or 2 goals with performances that just about get us over the line. Feel sorry for the younger fans who must have nothing in terms of memories from going the game.

Nights like United at home in 04/05, Liverpool in the Cup seem to be a distant memory.

Those two boss seasons where we finished 4th and made the cup final and Liverpool won the CL and nearly won the league. Theyre the high points since 95 for Evertonians. Good lord.

 

[Jabba49]

Think yourselves lucky, I also had to endure this result -

11th October, 1958
Tottenham Hotspur 10 Everton 4
Scorers: Ryden, Medwin, Harmer, Smith (4), Stokes (2), Robb
What a way for Bill Nicholson to start his managerial career. Appointed on the morning of the match the players responded and produced this outstanding result – a sign of the great times ahead at White Hart Lane when ‘Sir’ Bill was in charge.
With only three victories and nine points in the opening eleven games, Spurs’ season was in danger of becoming a struggle against relegation. They were only one place off the bottom of the League when Nicholson took charge and his first decision was to restore Tommy Harmer to the team and he helped to inspire Spurs to an incredible victory.
Spurs were 6-1 ahead at half-time and the goal scorers were Bobby Smith(4), Alf Stokes(2), Johnny Ryden, Terry Medwin, Tommy Harmer and George Robb.
Alf Stokes opened the scoring for Spurs but Jimmy Harris equalized for Everton. Bobby Smith and George Robb added two more before Smith, Stokes and Terry Medwin scored before the interval. Harris scored a second for the visitors early in the second half but then Smith and Tommy Harmer took the score to 8 – 2. Harris completed his hat-trick but Smith scored his fourth. Bobby Collins scored Everton's fourth but centre half Johnny Ryden scored Tottenham's tenth.

 

[dannyboy]

Those two boss seasons where we finished 4th and made the cup final and Liverpool won the CL and nearly won the league. Theyre the high points since 95 for Evertonians. Good lord.

Sacking Sam Allardyce was good too.

 

[WA Toffee]

I remember just a couple of weeks ago we were sitting in 6th place and the general consensus on here was that we were in a good place, possibly ready to make the next step.
Now we have lost a couple, it is all doom and gloom and everyone should be sacked.

We are such a polarised bunch

 

[technojoe]

I remember just a couple of weeks ago we were sitting in 6th place and the general consensus on here was that we were in a good place, possibly ready to make the next step.
Now we have lost a couple, it is all doom and gloom and everyone should be sacked.

We are such a polarised bunch

Fickle footie fans innit!

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Think yourselves lucky, I also had to endure this result -

11th October, 1958
Tottenham Hotspur 10 Everton 4
Scorers: Ryden, Medwin, Harmer, Smith (4), Stokes (2), Robb
What a way for Bill Nicholson to start his managerial career. Appointed on the morning of the match the players responded and produced this outstanding result – a sign of the great times ahead at White Hart Lane when ‘Sir’ Bill was in charge.
With only three victories and nine points in the opening eleven games, Spurs’ season was in danger of becoming a struggle against relegation. They were only one place off the bottom of the League when Nicholson took charge and his first decision was to restore Tommy Harmer to the team and he helped to inspire Spurs to an incredible victory.
Spurs were 6-1 ahead at half-time and the goal scorers were Bobby Smith(4), Alf Stokes(2), Johnny Ryden, Terry Medwin, Tommy Harmer and George Robb.
Alf Stokes opened the scoring for Spurs but Jimmy Harris equalized for Everton. Bobby Smith and George Robb added two more before Smith, Stokes and Terry Medwin scored before the interval. Harris scored a second for the visitors early in the second half but then Smith and Tommy Harmer took the score to 8 – 2. Harris completed his hat-trick but Smith scored his fourth. Bobby Collins scored Everton's fourth but centre half Johnny Ryden scored Tottenham's tenth.

The worrying thing was Spurs could easily have had 10 today.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I remember just a couple of weeks ago we were sitting in 6th place and the general consensus on here was that we were in a good place, possibly ready to make the next step.
Now we have lost a couple, it is all doom and gloom and everyone should be sacked.

We are such a polarised bunch

If we beat Burnley and Brighton it will be more of the deluded same.

 

[Frang]

If we beat Burnley and Brighton it will be more of the deluded same.

and lets face it, even our worst performance we should still have more than both of burnley and brighton, even away.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

and lets face it, even our worst performance we should still have more than both of burnley and brighton, even away.

I thought that before Watford and Newcastle at home mate.

 

[billyblue80]

We've been a joke for a long time if we are honest.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

the mentality comes from the manager.

we are weak mentally as has been proven on several occasions this season already.

that needs to change as of next game.

cant see it happening

But it doesn't though. Mentality comes from the people who employ the manager and have certain expectations from him. It has to come from the very top. The club just shrugs off our misrable recent records againt top sides and hideous derby records and our abysmal cup records in recent years. You reckon that it's always been the manager every single time? Or is it somthing deeper. Our managers have failed for the same reason our players failed. Because of the club's embarrassing acceptance of mediocrity. We joke on here with the whole "Everton that" thing but there's almost certainly an element of that being used at the club as an inbuilt excuse for failure, in fact there 100% is, see Pickford's comments after the derby where me mentions the "Everton luck" or some such BS! If the powers that be accept garage like this and even ebrace is why would the manager not use it?

 

[Frang]

But it doesn't though. Mentality comes from the people who employ the manager and have certain expectations from him. It has to come from the very top. The club just shrugs off our misrable recent records againt top sides and hideous derby records and our abysmal cup records in recent years. You reckon that it's always been the manager every single time? Or is it somthing deeper. Our managers have failed for the same reason our players failed. Because of the club's embarrassing acceptance of mediocrity. We joke on here with the whole "Everton that" thing but there's almost certainly an element of that being used at the club as an inbuilt excuse for failure, in fact there 100% is, see Pickford's comments after the derby where me mentions the "Everton luck" or some such BS! If the powers that be accept garage this and even ebrace is why would the manager not use it?

I find a lot of the 'everton that' stuff excrutiating , as normally, its right on the button.

terrifying..