That's the thing. He's done better than all those names, and with more limited resources. He's coming off arguably the best spell of his career and should be a better manager now than when he left. And if he develops a good young coach as his apprentice it could be a transition to better things for the long term.We’ve made every type of managerial decision possible since Moyes .
Hollywood appointments from Moshiri: Ancelotti, Benitez, Koeman
Progressive up and comers: Silva, Lampard, Martinez
Pragmatists: Allardyce, Dyche
They’ve mostly all ended up going the same way with the players either giving up or just reverting to nothing football
At least the pragmatists kept the back door shut if nothing else
Yup. And that move has worked.Bit like the move with Ranieri at Roma?
The time to push on was when Moyes left. We had a top 6 squad stable in European qualification and he’d just brought through Barkley, brought in Stones, and then we had the money for Lukaku.
If at that point we’d been taken over with a new stadium pre PS&R we could have gone for a top manager and absolutely motored.
Demanding a top manager when you’re in the bottom half running a sell to loan transfer policy is just not going to happen. We need to build back, Moyes can do that, and when he hits his ceiling we might be back in Europe with far better players
yep we were going to pay big bucks to get Klopp in with Ancelotti as assistant and Mourinho as kit man!!!!!!!Yep exactly that imo.
Looks like the initial plan was to leave Dyche in till the summer but his mentality & results have changed that.
Everton fans are living in a dreamworld if they think we were paying for a manager at a club in January.
He’s got to be in the running
I think he keeps us up
After that… these Friedkin boys won’t shy away from making the next decision
Potter, I think would have sunk us in the short term
End of the day Moyes' biggest achievement is winning a European trophy and Dyche's is the one time he's qualified for one. You can compare them stylistically but at what they do they are levels apart.Anyone who says the words "backward step" is basically saying "i don't have any idea about football".
You can say Moyes isn't who i want but there's no evidence that Moyes is anything but an upgrade on Dyche unless you think consistently finishing higher every season is a negative.
That's fair, but I also think we have to focus on this year more.He's better, but with a massively better squad at West Ham only won another 3 or 4 points than Dyche last season.
There are many upgrades on Sean Dyche, but we just happen to fish in a tiny, incestuous gene pool.Anyone who says the words "backward step" is basically saying "i don't have any idea about football".
You can say Moyes isn't who i want but there's no evidence that Moyes is anything but an upgrade on Dyche unless you think consistently finishing higher every season is a negative.
All he has to do is meet his average here and at WHU and we will be massively improved. I think the squad here is much better than the results suggest, which is why Dyche got sacked.“When he hits his ceiling “
That’s my point tho, there will be still huge backing for him regardless because it’s not a relegation fight .
This is a man who delivered no silverware, a terrible record at good teams, talks about the club as if he rebuilt a Coventry City, revered by some almost as much as more successful people in the clubs history and was given a big send off West Ham at home for being competent at papering over cracks sustained by a man , who despite major issues with his custodianship, was also given rounds of applause.
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