The Power Shift On Merseyside

BlueAmigo · October 2, 2012

Village Idiot said:
So here's to 15 years of failure for them, with 15 years of continuous improvement for the Blues.

Amen to that!

mkrudden · October 2, 2012

For me, the derby at the end of this month is the be all and end all.

Ive just cringed my way through highlights of the cup semi final last year and it still hurts. I want to see our boys in blue brush away their inferiority complex and do them. Not just a bit, but proper do em balls deep. And by that I dont mean 5.0 or anything, I just want to see us play our football. Dictate the game. Make THEM play OUR game. Press high, attacking with variety with the options that we have now.

If we do that, then i really dont give a flying 'you know what' about where they finish, because we it wont matter, itll be below us as with the confidence it would give us (and a midges d!ck of luck), we'll finish in the top 5..and they wont.

just my 10 pence worth lads

nigelcoyb · October 2, 2012

Hate reading this ****, aul' arses like me still won't say they're bigger, better or in anyway comparable to us. They are evil spawn from the real team of this city - US - bad evertonians took the money Houlding offered all those decades ago hanging round at anfield like a bad smell till the 60s and the genius motivator Shankly arrived.

They killed english football with their defence first ****e more or less inventing "put it into row z son" as espoused by Hansen, Thommo, etc and is the real source of emnity between them and Utd who never did.

Although I say Fck 'em, people who've run EFC since Shanks appeared are as much to blame being too grand to take them seriously and living off past glories and just look where it's got us - [Poor language removed] 7th!!!

Just hope I live long enough to see us with either the money to buy success despite who's manager like City (I mean Mancini ffs, a total tit) or get a genuine genius like Shanks, Busby etc who can turn water into wine and restore the natural order.

evertony · October 2, 2012

Slavan said:
reina, gerrard, suarez

Reina and Gerrard were world class....both are on the decline unquestionably.

Suarez is very good, but simply not world class.

Fellaini, Baines and Jelavic are better than anything they currently have.....although Brendan did say on Saturday that Glen Johnson is the best right back in the world.......the f****** world ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

zed · October 2, 2012

nigelcoyb said:
They killed english football with their defence first ****e more or less inventing "put it into row z son" as espoused by Hansen, Thommo, etc and is the real source of emnity between them and Utd who never did.

truer words have never been spoken

just_COYB · October 2, 2012

LTblue said:
Everton are FAR more likely to finish in the top 4 than Liverpool are and that's all I care about right now, better manager, better team and 8 points ahead, and boy how i'm going to regret this post.

If we finish below them, just leave your valuation and start a new username. It's better that way.

blue4eva77 · October 3, 2012

This is the mistake us Evertonians make..... We get on a decent run of form and suddenly its a power shift. Your stats are interesting i will admit but lets not forget about the bigger picture. Our club is in serious financial trouble and only the great football currently being played is the reason we are not talking about it.

toffeejack · October 4, 2012

meh, we'll finish above them this year and probably the next few with the way they're going. gerrard is far from world class anymore, he'll have good games against us yes, but he's been shocking so far. don't get me started on a clown and a racist who can only hit the target against norwich. to the person who listed their bright future prospects...they could all turn out to be jack rodwell, yes sterling looks good, but he has youthful exuberance we have seen oh so many youngsters look good at that age and quickly fade away, and that is just at everton. also i don't see how people can be so sure they will just spend and keep on spending? they couldn't even afford an extra million for dempsey and instead were offering players who cost 20 million like henderson in exchange, this was only a few months ago. i would not blame the yanks if they held their hands up, said it was a failed exercise, sell a few assets and sell up. even then, if they're playing champions league money (sahin 5 million with no option to buy ffs! jelavic cost less than that) for mid-table players, it's not a great return on investement in the long run.

anyway, lets just enjoy the ride we're having at the moment, it would take decades of utter gashness from them and utter brilliance from us for their to be a power shift (they have 5 european cups, of course they're bigger), but at the very least we can look for is a few years of being the best in merseyside, we'll see where we go from there

Jamo Martinez · October 4, 2012

toffeejack said:
meh, we'll finish above them this year and probably the next few with the way they're going. gerrard is far from world class anymore, he'll have good games against us yes, but he's been shocking so far. don't get me started on a clown and a racist who can only hit the target against norwich. to the person who listed their bright future prospects...they could all turn out to be jack rodwell, yes sterling looks good, but he has youthful exuberance we have seen oh so many youngsters look good at that age and quickly fade away, and that is just at everton. also i don't see how people can be so sure they will just spend and keep on spending? they couldn't even afford an extra million for dempsey and instead were offering players who cost 20 million like henderson in exchange, this was only a few months ago. i would not blame the yanks if they held their hands up, said it was a failed exercise, sell a few assets and sell up. even then, if they're playing champions league money (sahin 5 million with no option to buy ffs! jelavic cost less than that) for mid-table players, it's not a great return on investement in the long run.

anyway, lets just enjoy the ride we're having at the moment, it would take decades of utter gashness from them and utter brilliance from us for their to be a power shift (they have 5 european cups, of course they're bigger), but at the very least we can look for is a few years of being the best in merseyside, we'll see where we go from there

Good post. I agree with every word.

I said in another thread that Sterling scares me. But so did Ryan Babel the first few times I saw him.

EFCNIK · October 4, 2012

Let's face it lads, they have the money to put right any possible 'power shift'. Yes I know they've spent and ****ed up, but they'll eventually get it right. And them as a club, for some utterly satanic reason, still has the pull factor for top players and maybe a top manager in the future.

When we start consistantly finishing above them in the league, and maybe, jesus christ maybe, win a trophy or two, then I'll start calling it a power shift. But not now. The bastards won the champions league more recently than we won our last trophy. We are definatly going the right direction to becoming really really good again. But let's not jump the gun. Liverpool are liverpool and things always turn out ok for them in the end.

toffeejack · October 4, 2012

EFCNIK said:
Let's face it lads, they have the money to put right any possible 'power shift'. Yes I know they've spent and ****ed up, but they'll eventually get it right. And them as a club, for some utterly satanic reason, still has the pull factor for top players and maybe a top manager in the future.

When we start consistantly finishing above them in the league, and maybe, jesus christ maybe, win a trophy or two, then I'll start calling it a power shift. But not now. The bastards won the champions league more recently than we won our last trophy. We are definatly going the right direction to becoming really really good again. But let's not jump the gun. Liverpool are liverpool and things always turn out ok for them in the end.

hoping i'm not jynxing this, but they seem to have an aura around them atm which makes me think they're not going to get out of it so easily this time and things may not turn out too rosy. i don't think they're a pull factor for top players atm and won't be for those outside england whilst they're not qualifying for champions league. i don't think they'll get out of their europa group stage and i don't think they'll be in the comp next season. hoping this will be the same the season after as well. but gylfi siggurdson wanted to go there because of the manager and his agent still managed to convince him to go to the mighty tottenham hotspur instead

zirc · October 4, 2012

Artetafan said:
I agree, entirely. We're homeless and they're millionaires who have managed to burn down their mansion.

All I'm saying is we should take advantage of the fact that neither of us have a roof because they'll inevitable rebuild in a year or so and we can't. This should be the year where we leave them in our dust, like last year should have been and the year before.

So, pick through the ashes of their big beautiful house, see if there are any half usable things amongst the rubble, and build some sort of makeshift shack out of it? I'm in.