The Oldies Thread


The Christian Brothers were brutal mate ,if anybody else on here went to Cardinal Godfrey on Breckfield Road South it had they appearance from the inside of Colditz Castle you were even kept in solitary confinement if you tried to escape I used to work in the forgery department.

I went to Cardinal Allan. We had priests, and the head was Canon Kieron - an absolute tyrant. Two others were absolute sods as well, although my 6th Form form-master, Fr. Higham, was OK.

Head of PE was Pat Quinn. He had played rugby for Waterloo, England, and the British Lions. Hard as nails. During the Friday 4 pm meeting in the assembly hall for the arrangements for the following morning's rugby matches, one of the senior lads decided to talk to someone while he was talking. Quinn was incensed, and offered the lad out, saying, if he thought he was hard enough to cut across him while he was giving out instructions, the two of them in the gym with boxing gloves at the end of the meeting! I just sat there and thought : Ooooh Sheeeet! Not surprisingly, the lad didn't take up the offer!

We had a maths teacher, Robson, who, when he saw a bee or a wasp on a window, would throw the duster at it from several yards away. He had many 'confirmed' kills, and a few damaged!
 

41 years ago today. I remember it well.
Beaten by WBA 3-1 at The Hawthorns. Game notable by the fact a Jack Russell dog on the pitch at the time distracted David Lawson in our goal for their third.
Oh and I got married to my Elaine. xxxx
 
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Eh, what's that you say, was that the door ?
 

I went to Cardinal Allan. We had priests, and the head was Canon Kieron - an absolute tyrant. Two others were absolute sods as well, although my 6th Form form-master, Fr. Higham, was OK.

Head of PE was Pat Quinn. He had played rugby for Waterloo, England, and the British Lions. Hard as nails. During the Friday 4 pm meeting in the assembly hall for the arrangements for the following morning's rugby matches, one of the senior lads decided to talk to someone while he was talking. Quinn was incensed, and offered the lad out, saying, if he thought he was hard enough to cut across him while he was giving out instructions, the two of them in the gym with boxing gloves at the end of the meeting! I just sat there and thought : Ooooh Sheeeet! Not surprisingly, the lad didn't take up the offer!

We had a maths teacher, Robson, who, when he saw a bee or a wasp on a window, would throw the duster at it from several yards away. He had many 'confirmed' kills, and a few damaged!

....if we’re talking about Cardinal Allen in West Derby, it was a rugby school back in the day. I played for Liverpool Schoolboys U15 and they organised a footy game with the 6th form to toughen us up (1971 perhaps). It was tough. CA changed name and has become a fantastic football school producing professionals at all levels.
 
....if we’re talking about Cardinal Allen in West Derby, it was a rugby school back in the day. I played for Liverpool Schoolboys U15 and they organised a footy game with the 6th form to toughen us up (1971 perhaps). It was tough. CA changed name and has become a fantastic football school producing professionals at all levels.

Yes it was a rugby school - no football teams whatsoever. A bit of a shock at first, as I had played football all through junior school for St. John's (in Kirkdale), playing one year above my age group - I was playing for the first year senior team when in the last year of juniors.

For 3 years I did cross-country running, then at the start of fourth year in CAGS Pat Quinn told me I was transferring to the rugby team, so I spent the remaining four years at CAGS playing scrum half. In the last year at school I also played for Brunswick (Bootle) Under 18s. So, I played 80 minutes rugby on a Saturday morning, went home, got fed, then headed out to play 90 minutes football for Brunswick in the afternoon. That Brunswick team had some very good players. A couple played regularly for Everton 'A', the goalkeeper was the Lancashire Under-18s 'keeper and a couple of others also played for Lancashire U-18s. Centre forward was Joe King, who later played for Marine, and had a lucrative deal set up to play in the emerging football league in America before he suffered a double leg break with Marine which scuppered his chances of playing in the States. That Brunswick team I played in got to 2 finals that season. BUT, they were on consecutive nights. The County FA Minor Cup Final was on one night, and the LBA Final was on the following night. We asked the Country FA to move the date, but they wouldn't. So our Manager, Ted Caroll, says to us in the dressing room at the Police Ground before the Minor Cup Final, 'Whatever you do, don't go to extra time'. Full-time score: 3-3. Lost 4-3 after extra time to Norris Green Boys Club that night. The following night we lost to Belvidere Boys Club 2-1. The most famous player from the Brunswick youth team over the years is Carragher.

The first well-known player to come out of CAGS was Colin Harvey. In later years, when its name had changed to Cardinal Heenan, Stevie G went there.
 
Yes it was a rugby school - no football teams whatsoever. A bit of a shock at first, as I had played football all through junior school for St. John's (in Kirkdale), playing one year above my age group - I was playing for the first year senior team when in the last year of juniors.

For 3 years I did cross-country running, then at the start of fourth year in CAGS Pat Quinn told me I was transferring to the rugby team, so I spent the remaining four years at CAGS playing scrum half. In the last year at school I also played for Brunswick (Bootle) Under 18s. So, I played 80 minutes rugby on a Saturday morning, went home, got fed, then headed out to play 90 minutes football for Brunswick in the afternoon. That Brunswick team had some very good players. A couple played regularly for Everton 'A', the goalkeeper was the Lancashire Under-18s 'keeper and a couple of others also played for Lancashire U-18s. Centre forward was Joe King, who later played for Marine, and had a lucrative deal set up to play in the emerging football league in America before he suffered a double leg break with Marine which scuppered his chances of playing in the States. That Brunswick team I played in got to 2 finals that season. BUT, they were on consecutive nights. The County FA Minor Cup Final was on one night, and the LBA Final was on the following night. We asked the Country FA to move the date, but they wouldn't. So our Manager, Ted Caroll, says to us in the dressing room at the Police Ground before the Minor Cup Final, 'Whatever you do, don't go to extra time'. Full-time score: 3-3. Lost 4-3 after extra time to Norris Green Boys Club that night. The following night we lost to Belvidere Boys Club 2-1. The most famous player from the Brunswick youth team over the years is Carragher.

The first well-known player to come out of CAGS was Colin Harvey. In later years, when its name had changed to Cardinal Heenan, Stevie G went there.

..I never knew Colin Harvey went there. It’s been a conveyor belt of professionals throughout the leagues since the name change. My son went there but the old building has been knocked down since he left. There’s a nice mural on the wall into the gym which shows many of the ex-pupils in various sports, not to mention the 3 lads who played for England U15 Schoolboys (Schumacher, Walsh and Moogan) in the same year. Walsh and Schumacher had long professional careers, Alan Moogan had a series of bad injuries and had to retire.

I always think it’s an amazing achievement that two footballers who earned over 100 international caps and captained their country went to schools a few miles away from each other - Gerrard (Cardinal Heenan) and Wayne Rooney (De la Salle). That should be celebrated in our city.
 
..I never knew Colin Harvey went there. It’s been a conveyor belt of professionals throughout the leagues since the name change. My son went there but the old building has been knocked down since he left. There’s a nice mural on the wall into the gym which shows many of the ex-pupils in various sports, not to mention the 3 lads who played for England U15 Schoolboys (Schumacher, Walsh and Moogan) in the same year. Walsh and Schumacher had long professional careers, Alan Moogan had a series of bad injuries and had to retire.

I always think it’s an amazing achievement that two footballers who earned over 100 international caps and captained their country went to schools a few miles away from each other - Gerrard (Cardinal Heenan) and Wayne Rooney (De la Salle). That should be celebrated in our city.

Mick Lyons (just over a year younger than me) also went to De La Salle. I played cricket against him a couple of times (I was opening bat for the First XI, he was their opening bowler). Even at school level, he was well-known. Word was, that aged 15 he was playing football in the top division in the Liverpool Sunday League, and when he signed schoolboy forms with Everton, they stopped him playing Sunday League in case he got injured.
 

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