The Now-Irrelevant 2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

Btw I think that’s history making tonight, the first time a teams lost every meeting with a side in a season and one manager has been in either dugout as RVN oversaw 2 of the 3 Old Trafford meetings as United interim and the third and tonight as the Foxes’ boss
 

mikel_88 said:
Not really sure why people think leeds or wel any of the other teams coming up next year will be any different. Dont think any of the teams have any real quality, then i look at the league teams been down the bottom us eso who will finally have money to inprove this squad. Wolves maybe becuase of replacing cunha. But cant really see any other teams really fighting hard next season to stay up, be the 3 promoted for me
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Leeds have some experience but yeah their 4-5 summer signings will need to be relatively proven. They also can't give Farke more than ten games if he's anything like he was at Norwich when they were in the prem.

I think Wolves will be down there again next season. Might also be the first season Brentford seriously struggle at this level if they let Mbuemo go, just a feeling on them as Frank might also decide the time is right to leave if he gets offers.

Hit the ground running early next season at BMD and this will just be a thread for other football or just kept low down the pages as a curiosity as it has been for the last month.
 
Saint Domingo said:
None of the bottom 3 have got over 17 points. That’s the number we were on when Moyes took over and we had a game in hand. We were definitely going down though….
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We were not 'definitely going down' but we were in the mix.

If you had predicted in that time that we would have won 17 points and the bottom teams would have won barely a point between them then vault yourself or show us your betting slip. Else I'll take the view that you are carrying on your 'agenda'.
 
Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
Saints and Tractor Boys have at least seemingly tried, they’re just not good enough

Leicester have been atrocious at all levels this season

Terrible effort levels from the players, terrible coaching and terrible management at executive level

One of the worst sides in Premier League history
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Have Southampton really tried? They were losing by big scores early on in the season and just gifting goals from playing out from the back.

Also kept Russell Martin until mid December when they probably had grounds to sack him in September so wasted a few months.

Leicester is the self inflicted one. Cooper style wasn't great but they were more resilient under him and grinding out draws. Lost all that under RVN.
 
mikel_88 said:
Not really sure why people think leeds or wel any of the other teams coming up next year will be any different. Dont think any of the teams have any real quality, then i look at the league teams been down the bottom us eso who will finally have money to inprove this squad. Wolves maybe becuase of replacing cunha. But cant really see any other teams really fighting hard next season to stay up, be the 3 promoted for me
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I can't see Leeds staying up but they will have the best fight because they do have the occasional half decent player and have previous for signing a difference maker.

I think it will take a massive cockup by am established team to go down. That could've been wolves this year but Cunha wouldve dragged them out of it.

The gaps just massive.
 

TGW89 said:
Swear we came close under Dyche once...
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Ha feels like it dosen't it?

Had a look at Soccerbase and when he came in 22/23 only actually failed to score in two home games under him (Villa and Man. City).

2023/24 started with three scoreless home games but then picked up. Even in the lean winter months were still scoring in majority of home games.

This season the worst run was four scoreless home games out of six. 0-0s v Chelsea, Brentford and Newcastle and 0-2 defeat to Forest. Also only scored in 94th minute to salvage draw v Fulham.

So Dycheball wasn't close to being as inept as what Leicester have become under Van Nistelrooy.
 

knowing your history said:
Ha feels like it dosen't it?

Had a look at Soccerbase and when he came in 22/23 only actually failed to score in two home games under him (Villa and Man. City).

2023/24 started with three scoreless home games but then picked up. Even in the lean winter months were still scoring in majority of home games.

This season the worst run was four scoreless home games out of six. 0-0s v Chelsea, Brentford and Newcastle and 0-2 defeat to Forest. Also only scored in 94th minute to salvage draw v Fulham.

So Dycheball wasn't close to being as inept as what Leicester have become under Van Nistelrooy.
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We failed to score in 9 of his last 11 I think, we never looked like scoring from open play.
 
Saint Domingo said:
What’s relegated the teams at the bottom is the goal difference. Nearly every season the teams with the worst goal differences are sure indicators of the ones that end up at the bottom. Even when Dyche left those teams had huge negative goal differences whilst we had a very good number of clean sheets. The quality of our defence, organisation, work ethic, set pieces, would have in my opinion comfortably seen us finish ahead of the three absolute shambles at the bottom now.
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When Moyes was appointed we had GD of -10 and West Ham were -15. We had 17 points and West Ham had 23. I know which one of points and GD I would have preferred.
 

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