The Now-Irrelevant 2024/25 Relegation Battle (Without Everton!)

[AndyP94]

West Ham look like that team who could drop late.

They have a very tough lot of away games and also Ipswich on final day.

Still got all of Forest, Bournemouth and Newcastle at home. That was a poor defeat for them today and they've also lost at home to Palace under Potter already.

Don’t know how West Ham aren’t further down as they’re really plop. Wish they’d drop but they seem to only beat the teams who are right at the bottom.

 

[MrGrumpy]

West Ham look like that team who could drop late.

They have a very tough lot of away games and also Ipswich on final day.

Still got all of Forest, Bournemouth and Newcastle at home. That was a poor defeat for them today and they've also lost at home to Palace under Potter already.

There 10 clear of Ipswich who are 3rd from bottom, no chance they go down

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

I think S’ton and Leicester are a given. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Wolves or Ipswich was the third.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

West Ham look like that team who could drop late.

They have a very tough lot of away games and also Ipswich on final day.

Still got all of Forest, Bournemouth and Newcastle at home. That was a poor defeat for them today and they've also lost at home to Palace under Potter already.

I don’t know why, but I can’t see it

At the moment I think it’ll be three of the current bottom four

I’ll see how I feel after another couple of games re West Ham

I just think they have enough good players to be okay

Potter is a bit of a slow starter when he goes to clubs but generally does okay if he’s given time

 

[blue61]

I think S’ton and Leicester are a given. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Wolves or Ipswich was the third.

Hopefully after tomorrow, it will be more Ipswich.

 

[davek]

He may have kept us up over the last couple of seasons with incredibly difficult circumstances but he was defo taking us down this season, completely ran out of ideas

I reject that.

It's nonsense IMO.

Look at the clubs below us. They really wouldn't have passed a Dyche managed team with two seasons of experience in staying up...las =t season with a very tidy 48 points dont forget.

We'd have been fine.

Moyes has done wonders in sorting the back four out - especially the RB berth, and (by fortune) overseen the revitalisation of Beto.

 

[Dylan]

I reject that.

It's nonsense IMO.

Look at the clubs below us. They really wouldn't have passed a Dyche managed team with two seasons of experience in staying up...las =t season with a very tidy 48 points dont forget.

We'd have been fine.

Moyes has done wonders in sorting the back four out - especially the RB berth, and (by fortune) overseen the revitalisation of Beto.

So we would have 0-0 drawn our way to safety?

 

[Goat]

I reject that.

It's nonsense IMO.

Look at the clubs below us. They really wouldn't have passed a Dyche managed team with two seasons of experience in staying up...las =t season with a very tidy 48 points dont forget.

We'd have been fine.

Moyes has done wonders in sorting the back four out - especially the RB berth, and (by fortune) overseen the revitalisation of Beto.

Reject it all you want, it was a fact.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I reject that.

It's nonsense IMO.

Look at the clubs below us. They really wouldn't have passed a Dyche managed team with two seasons of experience in staying up...las =t season with a very tidy 48 points dont forget.

We'd have been fine.

Moyes has done wonders in sorting the back four out - especially the RB berth, and (by fortune) overseen the revitalisation of Beto.

Why is it through fortune that Beto has improved?

I think it's pretty clear Moyes has found a way to use him more effectively

 

[lieneverton]

Why is it through fortune that Beto has improved?

I think it's pretty clear Moyes has found a way to use him more effectively

I dunno mate, think it just happened by chance. We should be thanking Dyche for not giving him a proper run and draining any confidence out of him.

 

[davek]

So we would have 0-0 drawn our way to safety?

We wouldn't have needed to draw our way out of this season's relegation race. The bottom 3 are stubbornly resistant to revival.

We were on 17 points with a game in hand on those below us when he was sacked. Six games later we'd have still been out of the relegation zone if we'd won none of them...which we would have.

 

[davek]

Why is it through fortune that Beto has improved?

I think it's pretty clear Moyes has found a way to use him more effectively

Because he wouldn't have got in the team if DCL hadn't have been injured.

Moyes was already under the tripe hound's spell "Dom this and Dom that".

 

[Goat]

We wouldn't have needed to draw our way out of this season's relegation race. The bottom 3 are stubbornly resistant to revival.

We were on 17 points with a game in hand on those below us when he was sacked. Six games later we'd have still been out of the relegation zone if we'd won none of them...which we would have.

To be fair, there really isnt a massive difference between being 17th on 17 points in a relegation battle or being 13th on 30 points.

So its swings and square abouts really isnt.

 

[Howards tipple]

I don’t know why, but I can’t see it

At the moment I think it’ll be three of the current bottom four

I’ll see how I feel after another couple of games re West Ham

I just think they have enough good players to be okay

Potter is a bit of a slow starter when he goes to clubs but generally does okay if he’s given time

No one out of the bottom 4 is going down.

They have to many points to make up and would require a disastrous run of form to be caught by them

 

[davek]

To be fair, there really isnt a massive difference between being on 17 points in a relegation battle or being 13th on 30 points.

So its swings and square abouts really isnt.

If you believe we'd have still been on 17 points 6 games later with Dyche still in charge you need to give your head a wobble. We'd been averaging pretty much a point a game up until that point.