Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson

[tsubaki]

If the government believed, quite rightly at the time, that the courts had nothing to do with prorogation, why would they then provide evidence. Until the SC decided that the new principle was that they do have an imput and therefore changed the rules, the government didn’t have to do anything. If the SC changed the rules and announced it prior to making further judgement then the government could have do so, but the SC didn’t, so the government couldn’t, and once the judgement was read that was that, with no appeal.......

“If” is doing a lot of work there Pete.

Every action of the state is subject to judicial review, and the state must be able to explain why it has taken (or not taken) an action. Cox knows that, as do the rest of the Governments law officers.

.... and yet for some reason (possibly not unconnected with them talking for weeks beforehand about proroguing Parliament so that no deal could be forced through ) no one could be found to go under oath and say why.

Or to put it another way, they turned up to a divorce hearing with nothing, when their ex had reams and reams of evidence about how many times they’d been over the side, including having a kid with someone else.

 

[gonetomorrow]

My god they're still at it in the House. What's the point? Posturing oafs.

Just give Johnson a one-way ticket to Brussels and tell him not to return without a deal.

 

[peteblue]

“If” is doing a lot of work there Pete.

Every action of the state is subject to judicial review, and the state must be able to explain why it has taken (or not taken) an action. Cox knows that, as do the rest of the Governments law officers.

.... and yet for some reason (possibly not unconnected with them talking for weeks beforehand about proroguing Parliament so that no deal could be forced through ) no one could be found to go under oath and say why.

Or to put it another way, they turned up to a divorce hearing with nothing, when their ex had reams and reams of evidence about how many times they’d been over the side, including having a kid with someone else.

Incorrect. A court has the jurisdiction to hear a divorce hearing. Until yesterday, no court had the jurisdiction. The SC decided to give itself the the jurisdiction, hence the problem......

 

[tsubaki]

Incorrect. A court has the jurisdiction to hear a divorce hearing. Until yesterday, no court had the jurisdiction. The SC decided to give itself the the jurisdiction, hence the problem......

Pete. Any action or inaction by the state is subject to judicial review. Any action.

 

[peteblue]

Pete. Any action or inaction by the state is subject to judicial review. Any action.

The question is who is on top. Parliament, HoC and HoL and the Queen, or a Court made up of unelected justices. The HoC can introduce a law that forbids the ten year old SC, a court of appeal only, from making judgements on various issues. It can also get rid of the SC just as it established it......

 

[arminisgod]

Yep I thought Corbyn did well. I think Johnson has been nothing short of a national embarrassment tonight.

Corbyn was pure garbage. As always.

I think you will find all Brexit voters won't agree. I thought he was excellent

 

[Tubey]

The question is who is on top. Parliament, HoC and HoL and the Queen, or a Court made up of unelected justices. The HoC can introduce a law that forbids the ten year old SC, a court of appeal only, from making judgements on various issues. It can also get rid of the SC just as it established it......

They technically can. In reality, no they can't.

 

[sbbefc]

Johnson is an absolute mess. An embarrassment. Totally out of his depth.

 

[Blues Harp]

The question is who is on top. Parliament, HoC and HoL and the Queen, or a Court made up of unelected justices. The HoC can introduce a law that forbids the ten year old SC, a court of appeal only, from making judgements on various issues. It can also get rid of the SC just as it established it......

Just stop mate ...you are ok with a liar and blusterer ? Feck you I'm alright Jack. Have a drink mate Oh you have already... lol lol lol lol lol

 

[Tubey]

Corbyn was pure garbage. As always.

I think you will find all Brexit voters won't agree. I thought he was excellent

All Brexit voters won't think he was great tonight. Most will as they have inherent political bias, but some will see his performance tonight as the trainwreck it was and be shaking their heads at it.

That's the problem Johnson has - he's alienated the moderates. It's why he wants a General Election as opposed to a second referendum, because he's gambling on people finding Jeremy Corbyn so offputting and dreadful that they'll vote Tory just to keep him out, regardless of the Brexit consequence.

 

[davek]

After that hideous reaction to the Supreme Court decision today in the recalled parliament, with the Tory sect leadership doubling down on their politics of hate and division, isn't it time that the Tory symapthisers on here summoned up some decency themselves to condemn what's happening to our democracy in their name, and to distance themselves from Johnson?

 

[Tubey]

After that hideous reaction to the Supreme Court decision today in the recalled parliament, with the Tory sect leadership doubling down on their politics of hate and division, isn't it time that the Tory symapthisers on here summoned up some decency themselves to condemn what's happening to our democracy in their name, and to distance themselves from Johnson?

It would be genuinely nice if some would do that after that performance in the HoC tonight, which was truly shameful in every degree of the word.

Say what you want about Corbyn (and I do), but he wouldn't respond to several heartfelt appeals to moderate language as it gets MPs sent death threats with the word "humbug".

You just have to be a decent human to see he was disgusting tonight. I'd go as far to say that there's something actually legitimately wrong with you in the head if you thought he did nothing wrong here.

He's a very selfish, disgusting person.

 

[Moomin]

It would be genuinely nice if some would do that after that performance in the HoC tonight, which was truly shameful in every degree of the word.

Say what you want about Corbyn (and I do), but he wouldn't respond to several heartfelt appeals to moderate language as it gets MPs sent death threats with the word "humbug".

You just have to be a decent human to see he was disgusting tonight. I'd go as far to say that there's something actually legitimately wrong with you in the head if you thought he did nothing wrong here.

He's a very selfish, disgusting person.

Corbyn was pure garbage. As always.

I think you will find all Brexit voters won't agree. I thought he was excellent

 

[Blues Harp]

After that hideous reaction to the Supreme Court decision today in the recalled parliament, with the Tory sect leadership doubling down on their politics of hate and division, isn't it time that the Tory symapthisers on here summoned up some decency themselves to condemn what's happening to our democracy in their name, and to distance themselves from Johnson?

I fear that we are moving into a situation where there will be an excuse to put the military on the streets in the name of law and order....and round up dissidents who are against a dictatorship.....Scary times.

 

[Moomin]

I bet the likes of the Mail and Express will praise Johnsons bravery or some other tosh they come up with.