The next manager appointment (new thread)

[Vintage]

Seen a link to Van Bronckhorst before.

Would be a terrible appointment. Can't see that happening thankfully

 

[chippy1722]

Seen a link to Van Bronckhorst before.

Would rather have Van Damme.

 

[chippy1722]

"Former Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has rejected talks over taking the Denmark job because he is in negotiations with a major club over a head coach role."

Oh god...

Major club rules is out luckily.

 

[chippy1722]

Sack Lee Carsley
So we can have him

He will never manage us so it’s not even worth thinking about.

 

[chippy1722]

‘ elite senior football ‘ ?
I thought we were talking about potential Everton managers here ?

Unfortunately people are very unrealistic and see us as more than what we are actually are.

 

[evertondotcom]

buy maybe mate he wouldn’t want to jump in at a club with to big of expectations?

I’m as optimistic as the next blue but sometimes we all need a dose of reality.

We’re a mess and have been for years. There aren’t going to be many promising managers who look at how Everton have been run for the last decade and think “that’s a bit of me, that”.

 

[evertondotcom]

He seems the real deal alright but I don't necessarily think he'll have better offers.
Can't see Utd going for him because they'll probably want someone with a major trophy or two under their belt and Chelsea look sorted for a few years.

New Era, new ownership, new Stadium, revamped squad at Everton will be a very attractive proposition to most managers

Bless you.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Would be a terrible appointment. Can't see that happening thankfully

Yeah...am getting whiffs of De Boer at Palace.

 

[Bob Elstone]

Funny some blues thinking McKenna is too good for Everton.

Must be smoking some powerful stuff.

We’ve had ancelotti and even koeman. We’re on the up with the new stadium, new owners, new sponsors and new revenue.

McKenna would be lucky to get an interview.

 

[Jokerdan]

Something of a conundrum, really.

Hypothetically,

What young, aspiring Manager/Coach with career potential would want to risk or sacrifice that by coming to a Club which has been nothing but a poison chalice to most incumbents over the past 20 - 30 years

What already established M/C and one who is likely currently in a job would want to rock his own boat by leaving to come here

Yes, I realise egos, the personal financial package and the promise of money to spend on squad improvement play a big part in these things - and there are some out there who would dream of making a success at Everton where others have failed - so it may come down to those factors

What established and relatively successful M/C but one who is currently not in work - and we need to ask why - would be of interest to us

Leading nicely on to the 'has beens' who really have little to lose and will simply see us as a cash cow for building up their pension pots and we've had a few of those over the years.

It's going to be an interesting few months ahead.

 

[John from Bootle]

Graham Taylor was an excellent manager.

Yeah, he was, about 15 years before the achievement I referenced. That's why I specifically said "Graham Taylor circa 2000."

 

[NeilMorepies]

Yes, we should definitely have gone for young, hungry talented mangers who were on their way to the top in the past, like Martinez, Silva and Lampard.
And not inexperienced nobodies who would fail within 18 months.

 

[Jokerdan]

Yes, we should definitely have gone for young, hungry talented mangers who were on their way to the top in the past, like Martinez, Silva and Lampard.
And not inexperienced nobodies who would fail within 18 months.

Hmm, the sarcasm. But it emphasises the conundrum with which not only us but all clubs are faced with. Guess it comes down to a certain amount of luck as to whether all the dynamics fall into place at the one time but that's not something which has happened to Everton for forty years barring 1995 and the very occasional 'blip' in between when we were led into false dawns only for our hopes to be snuffed out as quickly as they arose.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Yes, we should definitely have gone for young, hungry talented mangers who were on their way to the top in the past, like Martinez, Silva and Lampard.
And not inexperienced nobodies who would fail within 18 months.

We’ve had every single profile of manager possible since Moyes left.

Possession based philosophy of ultra optimism

Experienced European name with prem experience, disciplinarian

Relegation specialist

Up and coming progressive Portuguese tactician

One of the best managers of all time

Disciplinarian tactician with experience

Ex great player up and coming promising manager

Pragmatic experienced PL manager.


Apart from one season under Martinez and 6 months under Ancelotti, they’ve either all largely failed against their targets at the time, or they’ve achieved them but the fans hate them regardless.

At some point perhaps the fans need to look at other factors at the club rather than obsessing over the profile of the manager.

At one point Chelsea had such a set up at their club that Roberto Di Matteo was able to come in and win the CL and Fa Cup. Managers came and went out of a revolving door and even interim managers were winning trophies. Players would join the club without knowing who the next manager was. The success was built on ruthless culture at the top, depth of quality and continuity in the playing squad, it wasn’t built on a never ending search for a mythical manager who can make a bottom half squad top 4 challengers (although we had one of them once and Everton fans got bored of him)

When one of the best managers of all times has you playing 4 CBs at the back, low block, and just two players upfront on the counter attack as you’re getting played around by bottom half teams at Goodison, and the team is incapable of putting a pass together unless one of the best number 10s in history is in the team…..then at some point it’s just time to change all the players.

 

[Simon Buttle]

Hmm, the sarcasm. But it emphasises the conundrum with which not only us but all clubs are faced with. Guess it comes down to a certain amount of luck as to whether all the dynamics fall into place at the one time but that's not something which has happened to Everton for forty years barring 1995 and the very occasional 'blip' in between when we were led into false dawns only for our hopes to be snuffed out as quickly as they arose.

Many of our issues stem from not letting the manager/DoF get on with their jobs due too an interfering board above them. Also if you are going to employ the DoF model then let them pick the person they want to work with and not the owner/chairman.