The next manager appointment (new thread)

[Mrbluenose]

Interesting that Carlo is under pressure at Madrid. Could easily imagine him leaving there in summer. He’d be 66 at the beginning of next season and of course walked out on us, but would anyone have him back for the Bramley Moore? Would certainly cause a stir again and if he could be tempted before, I’m sure he could be tempted now.

We fooled him once. He ain't falling for it again.

Madrid's his last job.

 

[murphy89]

Would anyone consider Ten Hag?

 

[Marius57]

He's the same age as Dyche, but he is in pole position for a big position in Spain, if a domestic manager is asked almost every time.


One of his biggest strength is making players better: Isak, Odegaard revival, Sorloth and also Merino just some recent examples. Kubo and Oyarzabal are always named for a move to a big club.

They are our rival, but he does really good work there.

Gipuzokoa is the smallest province in Spain and all 4 Spanish premier league managers are born there. 750'000 people.

Surprised there haven’t been more even tenuous links with him to be honest, not just us, but other PL teams.

But just confirms that there are plenty of managers out there doing good jobs if happy to not have pL eXpErIeNcE

 

[degsy]

Interesting that Carlo is under pressure at Madrid. Could easily imagine him leaving there in summer. He’d be 66 at the beginning of next season and of course walked out on us, but would anyone have him back for the Bramley Moore? Would certainly cause a stir again and if he could be tempted before, I’m sure he could be tempted now.

Carlo DoF
Davide manager
??

 

[Marius57]

Carlo DoF
Davide manager
??

Wouldn’t want Davide as a manager. Not proven at all.

But Carlo could do a similar role as ranieri is moving into at Roma when he is taking up a senior exec/advisory role.

 

[matty1878]

I fully expect it to be their first action as owners. And like you say, they will have someone lined up. They've had long enough to see the problems at the club.

yup exactly mate

 

[matty1878]

Wouldn’t want Davide as a manager. Not proven at all.

But Carlo could do a similar role as ranieri is moving into at Roma when he is taking up a senior exec/advisory role.

Am we aren’t getting carlo ffs

 

[matty1878]

He has a rock solid relationship with the owners at Ipswich, nothing we can offer will make him come here Zat, It's a very strange shout from you.

he’s obsessed with him

 

[Toffeepot]

Wouldn’t want Davide as a manager. Not proven at all.

But Carlo could do a similar role as ranieri is moving into at Roma when he is taking up a senior exec/advisory role.

I think this role applies to us too

 

[Toffeepot]

Am we aren’t getting carlo ffs

Matty, you've been throwing a few confident shapes lately about our next manager.
What aren't you telling us?!

 

[Drico]

Nah, because as was the case before, he'd walk as soon as a better option presented itself. We need a longer term option, Potter is probably the best we could do, or some up and coming manager from abroad.

Well, you say that, but if the Friedkins are the real deal then he wouldn't have a need to go with a "better option". If they back their manager properly - which I expect they will - then Everton in a brand new stadium with competent wealthy owners becomes a very interesting proposition to any ambitious manager. But ambition is the key. Carlo might be too old for such ambition - to wake a sleeping giant from its slumber, build a brand new club, and reach for the stars. It sounds like a challenge for a younger man - but if Carlo was up for it, no better man. I would imagine, however, at this stage of his life, the great man is thinking about a long and relaxing retirement.

Such a pity we got him when run by charlatans and plagued by a pandemic.

 

[murphy89]

Would anyone consider Ten Hag?

Loads of people laughing at this but he’s not first manager to struggle at united. Still has their 3rd best premier league win record as a manger with over 50% and won two trophies.

Sometimes it’s the club rather than the manager that causes the struggles. With new owners in and a better infrastructure plus less pressure than united - could he recreate the performance that saw him highly rated at Ajax?

 

[DualityNSNO]

Loads of people laughing at this but he’s not first manager to struggle at united. Still has their 3rd best premier league win record as a manger with over 50% and won two trophies.

Sometimes it’s the club rather than the manager that causes the struggles. With new owners in and a better infrastructure plus less pressure than united - could he recreate the performance that saw him highly rated at Ajax?

Of all of those I trust the only true one is "new owners". What better structure and less pressure? We have no structure to most things and to implement it takes time, and he'll feel the pressure instantly.

 

[murphy89]

Of all of those I trust the only true one is "new owners". What better structure and less pressure? We have no structure to most things and to implement it takes time, and he'll feel the pressure instantly.

Thelwell has been introducing a structure. Literally a massive article on it last week which was shared in here.

United fans expect to challenge every season. Not sure the pressure here would be the same. Not sure anyone here would turn up their noses at 6th place and a domestic trophy?

BTW, Im not convinced he is the right choice but surprised his name isn’t considered.

 

[Zatara]

Wouldn’t want Davide as a manager. Not proven at all.

But Carlo could do a similar role as ranieri is moving into at Roma when he is taking up a senior exec/advisory role.

Well, you say that, but if the Friedkins are the real deal then he wouldn't have a need to go with a "better option". If they back their manager properly - which I expect they will - then Everton in a brand new stadium with competent wealthy owners becomes a very interesting proposition to any ambitious manager. But ambition is the key. Carlo might be too old for such ambition - to wake a sleeping giant from its slumber, build a brand new club, and reach for the stars. It sounds like a challenge for a younger man - but if Carlo was up for it, no better man. I would imagine, however, at this stage of his life, the great man is thinking about a long and relaxing retirement.

Such a pity we got him when run by charlatans and plagued by a pandemic.

I think Ranieri took the job out of his love for Roma. Something similar may attract Ancelotti.

However, in my opinion this would ONLY be if Davide was the manager (head coach as in european football) and Carlo as DOF.

The issue here is the players that we should be focused on would be those who can be developed -- ideal for Davide.

But would Carlo Ancelotti be the one to work with the scouts to source those young players?

In theory its perfect, in reality...the transfers would be an issue as Ancelotti has always relied on a DOF not been one himself

Loads of people laughing at this but he’s not first manager to struggle at united. Still has their 3rd best premier league win record as a manger with over 50% and won two trophies.

Sometimes it’s the club rather than the manager that causes the struggles. With new owners in and a better infrastructure plus less pressure than united - could he recreate the performance that saw him highly rated at Ajax?

We have seen managers hired seemingly at random and be successful e.g Pochettino / Koeman at Southampton + Brighton with the new chap.

Ten Hag appeared to be the superstar in waiting in management terms.

Other than Garnacho and Hojlund -- he brought through Mainoo.

We need someone to develop through coaching a wave of young players.

Hes only achieved that at Ajax and we know that is their main focus...its 50/50 if he can do that with us.