Indeed. Not only that, by limiting the recruitment pool to only those institutions, you get politicians by default instead of the best candidates. Look at Diane Abbott - Cambridge educated apparently; yet is practically and clearly as thick as two short planks. Nobody can tell me she's the best Labour can find for the role she's in, yet there she is, because she hung around long enough and had 'Cambridge' written on her CV.
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Indeed. Not only that, by limiting the recruitment pool to only those institutions, you get politicians by default instead of the best candidates. Look at Diane Abbott - Cambridge educated apparently; yet is practically and clearly as thick as two short planks. Nobody can tell me she's the best Labour can find for the role she's in, yet there she is, because she hung around long enough and had 'Cambridge' written on her CV.
I think it was more that her views aligned with JCs and he was running out of people to choose for his shadow cabinet
Chunky Frankfurter
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War Crimes.
Hundreds of thousands, if not a million plus, dead innocent Iraqis. A war criminal.
And lets not pretend that war ended in 2011. For their suppose military strength, the US haven't (helped) win a war since WW2, and that was after dropping two atomic bombs, killing and affecting untold numbers of people.
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WycombeToffee
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Oxbridge selection is definitely meritocratic. It wasn't about 30 years ago, but they have made every stride to try and change that since.
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Its total cost was £789 million pounds and was open for less than a year. In the brief period that it was operating, it lost more money every two weeks than the O2 Arena (which replaced it) pays in ground rent for an entire year. It had four bailouts, totaling £179 million, in the time that it was open. They could only get rid of it by in effect giving it away, with later profits depending on development and whilst retaining the freehold (the O2 itself was later sold for £35 million between private firms).
This is not what is called success.
Fair enough. That may be so. I must admit I was basing my opinion on some years ago when I know you were more likely to get in there if you were related to or had contacts with someone from there or who had been there.
Don't you think though that the public schools will be familiar with and geared up for the Oxbridge entry process whereas the state schools won't be?
I think it could be called war crimes and it would be good if leaders were held accountable for military decisions based on dubious evidence and legality that lead to the deaths of hundreds and thousands of people.
This is one reason why I like Corbyn as I know he won't do anything like that.
Not in my name...
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Completely true, and I do fully understand where you're coming from. I was just trying to emphasise that it has changed recently, and you're far less likely to get the posh undeserving toffs attending simply because they have a rich dad. The private school issue is a big one, but at then end of the day, the higher quality teaching and "public school confidence" does give them an advantage in admissions.
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Because he'll never be anywhere close enough to power to do anything like that
Chunky Frankfurter
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Claimed there were WMDs. They didn't exist. Followed a lunatic that said that God told him to invade Iraq.
War crimes. War criminal.
Even the UN said it was illegal.
The colour of their skin doesn't diminish their crimes.
Agreed it looks like JC never will be in power but if he ever was he would not get involved with harmful military action. That's why I like him and will vote for Labour under him. I will then have a clear conscience that I haven't had any shared responsibility in any way for any dubious military action that Britain undertakes
Regardless of which side people favour, Corbyn supported and advocated the PIRA's part in NI including a speech praising the Loughall Martyrs.
Different situations and scenarios of course, however I find it galling that Corbyn is lauded as a pacifist when he's certainly not.
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I voted labour up until the day Ed Miliband become leader over the much better David Miliband because of the Unions power within the Labour party.
Ed Miliband and Corbyn now are so unelectable. Corbyn is the Bobby Martinez of politics, sounds good but in reality utterly dreadful at his job.
Ed Miliband and Corbyn now are so unelectable. Corbyn is the Bobby Martinez of politics, sounds good but in reality utterly dreadful at his job.
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