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[Spadge Vernacular]

I know you're a Labour man Dave - would you ever consider voting Lib Dems if the only alternative is Starmer and Johnson?

I obviously love Dave but suspect he is more Militant/Socialist Party or Communist than Labour

 

[davek]

Let me remind you that the point I raised you on was as follows:
I haven't really offered any opinion on anything else in this conversation, BLM or American prosecution system, so stop attributing arguments to me I haven't stated purely so you can knock them down.
I'll repeat my assertion, and the ruling of the ECHR, he didn't fail to 'address state killing of an innocent man' he approved a decision by a prosecuting solicitor that there was statutorily insufficient new evidence to pursue a prosecution against individual police officers following the initial CPS decision to not to prosecute in 2016 and the 'cannot be unlawful killing' ruling from the coroner.

Perhaps a better example could be the decision to prosecute in the case of Ian Tomlinson, where the CPS decided to prosecute and the officer was acquitted by the Jury.

It's not common that police officers are convicted in front of juries, up until Tomlinson case no police officer had been convicted for manslaughter for a crime committed while on duty since 1986. So as the DPP you might be asking yourself 'what's the point?'

Sophistry.

You're just not capable, it seems, of grasping this and dealing with it; that's either because you wont concede ground and want to save face, or you're being a bit thick.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider it to be the former.

 

[Charro]

No. Not ever.

We need the unions to break free of Labour and fund a mass based alternative to them. That would get my and a lot of other people's votes.

That would just split the left vote even more and keep the tories in power for decades.

 

[Hickson9]

So you think there's no extremists there now?

There are but it could be far worse.

Think Farage leading a party with 10-15% of the seats in the Commons.

 

[tsubaki]

There are but it could be far worse.

Think Farage leading a party with 10-15% of the seats in the Commons.

TBF that assumes UKIP / the BP and the current crop of Tories are different parties - theres not that much evidence of that with the same media support, the same policies, the same inexplicable funding, the same legally questionable tactics, the same gasoline-pouring rhetoric and even (and this is the most telling similarity of them all) the same infestation of "ex" RCP.

These people are the worst case scenario.

 

[davek]

That would just split the left vote even more and keep the tories in power for decades.

They'll be splitting too.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Sophistry.

You're just not capable, it seems, of grasping this and dealing with it; that's either because you wont concede ground and want to save face, or you're being a bit thick.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider it to be the former.

Would you prefer I didn't you intelligent thought?

Perhaps I could underline some bits, capitalise some points and write 'end of' at the end of my post just to really get my point across.

I'll assume your name calling is an admission you're completely out of your depth here.

 

[davek]

Would you prefer I didn't you intelligent thought?

Perhaps I could underline some bits, capitalise some points and write 'end of' at the end of my post just to really get my point across.

I'll assume your name calling is an admission you're completely out of your depth here.

...I think you're out of your depth mate.

Lol.

 

[Jebus_lives]

...I think you're out of your depth mate.

Lol.

Wow. What wit and intelligent repartee.

 

[LocalNative]

Keir Starmer absolutely cleaning up here again, got Boris all over the place. Like him more and more. Think he's really good for the labour party, as much as I liked Corbyn it was turning into a bit of a radical movement thanks to Momentum.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Keir Starmer absolutely cleaning up here again, got Boris all over the place. Like him more and more. Think he's really good for the labour party, as much as I liked Corbyn it was turning into a bit of a radical movement thanks to Momentum.

Spot on, it is heartening to see that finally we have a credible and capable leader. Once the entryists, Momentum and their ilk go back to their parties Labour can set about representing the majority of the UK and getting into government.

 

[degsy]

Tom Bower vindicated himself when for under got the worst defeat since the 1930,s but I will be ready to vote Labour under Starmer if Corbynism is removed, the early signs are looking very good ATM - so there is a great chance My family will return to Labour after not voting last time .........
As will many others hopefully........

I didn't leave Labour, they left me.

 

[Joey66]

I didn't leave Labour, they left me.

A true word said - they left most of the country as well in December Corbynism was always going to fail - a blue brick in a rosette would have beat him.......

 

[degsy]

A true word said - they left most of the country as well in December Corbynism was always going to fail - a blue brick in a rosette would have beat him.......

I rather think one did

 

[tsubaki]

Done consistently well at PMQs but Corbyn would have raised these exact points and been called Hitler.