Blues Harp
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Red Ed eh? lol lol lol
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Blues Harp
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You haven't a clue how I voted so as I said, don't presume. Is that clear? Probably not but hey ho.
The way you have posted before on most political threads easy to guess..
Yes got that one wrong his £3 membership fee caused that defeat again....twice Corbyn has been beaten ......
magicjuan
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'New' Labour Joe, 'new'. That wasn't labour at all. They were pale blue at best. Not labour.
....great to see Lisa Nandy linked with the leadership challenge, it was a long time ago I mentioned her for the top job on this site.
if Labour promote a Corbynist from within the Shadow Cabinet (Long-Bailey, Raynor et al) it will mean failure at the next election, I have no doubt about that just as I had no doubt that Corbyn was unelectable.
if Labour promote a Corbynist from within the Shadow Cabinet (Long-Bailey, Raynor et al) it will mean failure at the next election, I have no doubt about that just as I had no doubt that Corbyn was unelectable.
Disgruntledgoat
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So a minimum wage, greater investment in health and education than almost any other government, guaranteed paid leave by law for the first time, working families tax credits, decreasing child poverty, increasing employment and surestart weren't enough for you?
There will never be a perfect government, no leader will ever deliver only nice things because their job is to find the least terrible option to problems every day. New Labour was probably the best government Britian has had since at least the 60s.
....I worked in the public sector throughout the ‘New Labour’ years and the contrast with what happened previously was stark. Serious and innovative investment, significantly better public service offering.
New Labour not only got elected, they got re-elected. They were smart. They were Labour, a much preferable Labour for traditional Labour voters who have deserted Corbyn’s Labour.
Disgruntledgoat
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My great uncle was a Durham coal miner and a Jarrow Crusader. He was also Tony Blair's constituency secretary for 10 years. Absolutely loved him, he did.
For Labour to ever get in power again, your thinking needs to be completely binned off at the earliest opportunity.
100% spot on.
zzr45
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Labours big problem is that it isn’t the 70s/80s anymore. There was a program on the other day in some of the flipped constituencies where a lot of people said ‘yeah was great during the strikes, but the world’s moved on.’
New Labour was that iteration of the party bringing itself into the modern world. Same principles just applied to how the UK was at the time.
This Labour has been a weird mishmash. There’s ideas about modern issues but no real solutions apart from spend more, even then the issues seem to be Big city based that don’t talk to anyone. A lot of revolutionary talk which really, impressed no one but nobs on Twitter.
New Labour was that iteration of the party bringing itself into the modern world. Same principles just applied to how the UK was at the time.
This Labour has been a weird mishmash. There’s ideas about modern issues but no real solutions apart from spend more, even then the issues seem to be Big city based that don’t talk to anyone. A lot of revolutionary talk which really, impressed no one but nobs on Twitter.
The binman chronicles
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This is the most important point, before 1997 the longest Labour had managed to hold on to power was 6 years. And that was in times when a true socialist government made a lot more sense given the employment structure of the UK than it does now.
Even if people voted in a Corbyn style Labour they wouldn't have lasted and if it doesn't last the policies would have quickly been unwound and all that they promised to help would have been left in similar state after a 5 years. It beggars belief that people don't learn from history that the country is naturally centre right and the only Labour government to buck that trend was New Labour.
they want to create a giant nanny state and look down with disgust for anyone who doesn’t agree with them
I mean what Flint said about Thornberry sums it up completely. The party is run by a cult, and anyone, even their own party members, are treated with utter discontent if they dare speak up against those in power.
mcdonnell refuses to believe the truth on the leadership, still blaming the media. Is it the media’s fault for showing him on QT or Andrew Marr and coming across has an arrogant tit who is void of ideas. Or maybe he got wrapped up in the twittersphere, because that’s a relevant distribution of what the British people think
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