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[NilSatisOptimum]

Would that be the same EU whose €Euro is dropping like a stone……

So are women rights, thankfully I have no skin or known friend in USA female or other. If you have females in your life that you respect as inviduals there is no way you could support Trump. How far he goes in degrading womens rights will determine how much a facist he will be...

 

[Xizor]

Stopped Clock Dave is right in that it's a nightmare scenario for Starmer. He's got no choice as the junior partner in multi-layered international relationship but to play nice and say all the diplomatic things, even whilst Trump fires off 'Truths' insulting him as "Low IQ Keir" or whatever. Meanwhile an opposing party leader in the Commons is going to be swanning off to the White House monthly and taking those rictus grin thumbs up pictures Trump poses for. How delightful for the PM to get shown up constantly by our "most important" ally.

But... I'm not actually sure where this leaves the Tories, frankly. They seem completely moribund at the moment, and technically are at their lowest ever parliamentary ebb, with a new leader who can't claim majority support from either her MPs or members. Does Trump act like Reform are the official Opposition? It's not like he's going to remotely understand the UK system or the disparities between the Labour, Conservative or Reform vote/seat shares so when Farage's message is getting amplified from the White House, are they actually going to get overtaken? Probably not, but if they've got a membership that are tuning in to that sort of thing then the howling demands for some sort of deal with Reform might be impossible to ignore.

 

[davek]

This clueless turd - who is a think tank brain donor for Starmer - is indicative of how the sell out left who backed 'Labour' will interpret this shifting of tectonic plates across the Atlantic.



You see it was "the performative American left" that lost Harris the presidency, not her pitiful policies. The conclusion drawn for us here is that the solution to staying in power will be to demolish the left in the LP - what's left of it - and infiltrate and hound and delegitimise the left outside the LP.

These people are as dangerous as the MAGA lot.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Are you not in receipt of your state pension (benefit)?

he's been babbling riotous amounts of diarrhea for a while now, not to long ago he was all 'I've left all my assets to my kids, the treasury won't get a penny of what I've earned now, I was wise and clever and etc etc', suddenly, now the wind has changed direction he's back to an income requiring 40% tax rate.

there's a reason he likes boris so much, he reminds him of himself, chock full of bullspit*, peas in a pod those two.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It's a nightmare for Starmer. He might have sucked up to the intelligence community in Washington all his career, but Trump's lot are beyond his arse licking. They'll have no truck with Starmer and his gang.

It's like a film where there's two bad guys in and you enjoy watching one of them trying to annihilate the other.

'Working Girl'?

 

[Rita_Poon]

He certainly knows how to protect his own expensively clothed back……..

is it expensive on someone else's dime?

 

[Rita_Poon]

Stopped Clock Dave is right in that it's a nightmare scenario for Starmer. He's got no choice as the junior partner in multi-layered international relationship but to play nice and say all the diplomatic things, even whilst Trump fires off 'Truths' insulting him as "Low IQ Keir" or whatever. Meanwhile an opposing party leader in the Commons is going to be swanning off to the White House monthly and taking those rictus grin thumbs up pictures Trump poses for. How delightful for the PM to get shown up constantly by our "most important" ally.

But... I'm not actually sure where this leaves the Tories, frankly. They seem completely moribund at the moment, and technically are at their lowest ever parliamentary ebb, with a new leader who can't claim majority support from either her MPs or members. Does Trump act like Reform are the official Opposition? It's not like he's going to remotely understand the UK system or the disparities between the Labour, Conservative or Reform vote/seat shares so when Farage's message is getting amplified from the White House, are they actually going to get overtaken? Probably not, but if they've got a membership that are tuning in to that sort of thing then the howling demands for some sort of deal with Reform might be impossible to ignore.

You know what's great? trump is officially out before there's another uk GE. And unless they change the constitution, he can't get back in.

Maybe he'll run for PM here leading the reform party?

 

[Xizor]

You know what's great? trump is officially out before there's another uk GE. And unless they change the constitution, he can't get back in.

Honestly I don't know. I don't want to bring Trump talk here as well (I'm actually just trying to forget all about it entirely) but if there's one man who you can guarantee would explore any possible avenue for either unlocking a 3rd term (age/health permitting) or just claiming some arcane rule lets him stay on in a manufactured crisis, before getting his own personal SCOTUS to rubber stamp it in the face of all democratic opposition, it's him.

Do we think he's just going to walk off peacefully, especially if he hasn't been able to handpick a successor that'll do right by him in his political retirement?

I'm aware of the constitutional obstacles to this, but I just don't think I can underestimate what someone with such a flagrant disregard for the laws of the US is willing to do, or underestimate just how many people would be willing to support him in it.

At least for the moment we're on the up in the UK. #ThreeCheers4Keir

 

[catcherintherye]

Yes…..

And who do you think pays for that mate? It's not the tooth fairy.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

And who do you think pays for that mate? It's not the tooth fairy.

Think you’ve gotten confused but I’ve got you pal.

Pete, who now doesn’t take benefits, used to give his WFA, which he doesn’t need due to the success he had being part of the hardest working generation, to his adult son, who isn’t in work but forget that part if you want to go after any poster you suspect may not be in work.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

This clueless turd - who is a think tank brain donor for Starmer - is indicative of how the sell out left who backed 'Labour' will interpret this shifting of tectonic plates across the Atlantic.



You see it was "the performative American left" that lost Harris the presidency, not her pitiful policies. The conclusion drawn for us here is that the solution to staying in power will be to demolish the left in the LP - what's left of it - and infiltrate and hound and delegitimise the left outside the LP.

These people are as dangerous as the MAGA lot.

Whether those who vote feel better off in their pocket from last election will decide the next election result. Confidently predict if Labour fail to deliver better living standards then that is it. Wont matter who or what is running UK to Trump, its "America First". Drill drill drill.

 

[catcherintherye]

Think you’ve gotten confused but I’ve got you pal.

Pete, who now doesn’t take benefits, used to give his WFA, which he doesn’t need due to the success he had being part of the hardest working generation, to his adult son, who isn’t in work but forget that part if you want to go after any poster you suspect may not be in work.

I'm not sure buddy. I'm just saying that the poster who said to Pete was just pointing out his benefits are paid by tax payers.

I don't mind that at all, but it's a thing.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Whether those who vote feel better off in their pocket from last election will decide the next election result. Confidently predict if Labour fail to deliver better living standards then that is it. Wont matter who or what is running UK to Trump, its "America First". Drill drill drill.

Agree. That is why trump is in. Economy.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

I'm not sure buddy. I'm just saying that the poster who said to Pete was just pointing out his benefits are paid by tax payers.

I don't mind that at all, but it's a thing.

Oh I know bud.

& he’s pretty wise so I’m sure he knows too.

We’re all very civil & empathetic here.

 

[peteblue]

And who do you think pays for that mate? It's not the tooth fairy.

I do. Having paid in for 50+ years and continuing to pay 40% via the taxation on my real pensions, I do. You and Bruce certainly don’t contribute to any of my income. In addition, I pay the wages of seven staff from a pub that I own and from which I take no payment, in spite of the money and the work I have put in. So if you want to trade arguments about contributions to the nation and employees, you are arguing with the wrong person. So between the two of you, how much or how many years have you and Bruce put in. Don’t be shy, just put the numbers up or maybe keep quiet…….