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It is quite a nuanced subject though, and I've been on Ferarri's show, nuance is something he doesn't allow for whatsoever. He's a typical shock jock blowhard, so unless you can boil working class'ness into a pithy soundbite then you're always on a hiding to nothing on such a thing, and given how hard that is he'd probably piss some people off if he even tried.
But pithy soundbites is precisely the kind of politics Starmer operates in. Nick Ferrari is certainly a slimeball, but it shows what a lightweight Starmer is that he's undone so easily when forced to deviate from the think tanked and focus grouped script.
 
"Democracy" landed us with Brexit, Johnson, and Trump. Feel free to add your own faves.

It aint all that. There isnt a better system, but find me one.
People who voted for Brexit Johnson and Trump got us this idiocy.
House of Lord is not democratic its a home for cronies which at times serves a purpose in a democratic process.
 
People who voted for Brexit Johnson and Trump got us this idiocy.
House of Lord is not democratic its a home for cronies which at times serves a purpose in a democratic process.

Not sure what your first line means.

The Lords is not democratic, it also has no power. It is a revising chamber, nothing more, nothing less. The equivalent of "Go to your room and think about what you did". Wise minds look at the guff that the HOC lob them, and make "suggestions".
 
Starmer said he was going to scrap it and bring in an elected second chamber....now he says he won't...
Probably down to the utter mess the country now finds itself in. Not ideal but steady ship is needed. Constitutional change is needed now is not the time. Not all have gold gilded pensions and own homes and wag fingers because some dont purchase electric cars to the save the planet while spending hours down allotment counting their carbon footprint. All very self gratifying. There is a working world out there which gets you less than previous generations.

Not sure what your first line means.

The Lords is not democratic, it also has no power. It is a revising chamber, nothing more, nothing less. The equivalent of "Go to your room and think about what you did". Wise minds look at the guff that the HOC lob them, and make "suggestions".
Voted Brexit Johnson or Trump, own your idiocy, vote stupid dont be surprised stupid things happen.
House of Lords does have power, was seen in Brexit and is likely to bring Sunak government crashing down over Rwanda bill.
 
Probably down to the utter mess the country now finds itself in. Not ideal but steady ship is needed. Constitutional change is needed now is not the time. Not all have gold gilded pensions and own homes and wag fingers because some dont purchase electric cars to the save the planet while spending hours down allotment counting their carbon footprint. All very self gratifying. There is a working world out there which gets you less than previous generations.


Voted Brexit Johnson or Trump, own your idiocy, vote stupid dont be surprised stupid things happen.
House of Lords does have power, was seen in Brexit and is likely to bring Sunak government crashing down over Rwanda bill.

How did you get from the House of Lords to moaning about Electric cars???

Some jump that.
 
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