The facts dont support the notion we've slipped away from the top 6

[rascal]

Is this like the Kopites top of the league at Christmas trophy?

 

[davek]

Let me check.

*gets calender*

Yep, i was right. August 15th 2014 to August 14th 2015 is a calender year.

January 1st 2015 to August 15th 2015 isn't. Ive counted the days and everything.

And lastly, don't worry Dave, unfortunatly i'm sure your "friend" will be back soon.

I thought you were kidding at first, but you actually dont know what a calendar year is.

*sigh*

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Well, I think I've given you and your friend enough explanation for this and it's obvious you don't wish to accept the more than reasonable form guide offered which suggest a lot more hope for our team in relation to where they are with our rivals.

I'll leave it at that, other than to request you allow this thread to develop without you if you have no other contribution to make. You've made your feelings known. Let's just see what others think.

Code for: shut up you're ruining my nonsense thread with uncomfortable concepts like context, go away, so I can talk absolute pony to those gullible enough to swallow it.

 

[nsno-chris]

Kopites winning the league at Christmas notion.

 

[Elong]

Davek is corning the lot of you and you love it.

 

[Blue Cheese]

It's all irrelevant anyway a brand new season has just started, form can be very different from last year, see 13/14 - 14/15. Let's just see how it pans out. Just be optimistic and pleased to be watching togger again.

 

[Tubey]

Of course not, that wouldn't be a calendar year then would it?

Dear me.

So just to clarify: you and your mate here are not having it that 20 games - starting from a universally recognised chronological starting point - is enough of a period to judge form on?

OK.

Can't believe for a second you've just typed that without the faintest hint of irony, given you have spent the best part of a year dismissing an entire season as not worth judging Martinez on!

 

[ilikecheese]

It's funny how the people fuming over Dave's 'arbitrary' run of games also love to move the posts when discussing Lukaku's goal tally.

@Tubey

 

[Tubey]

@Tubey

I don't move the goalposts - they stay exactly the same. League goals. Always has been for me, always will be.

I don't start talking about league goals scored on a Tuesday or whatever.

 

[ilikecheese]

I don't move the goalposts - they stay exactly the same. League goals. Always has been for me, always will be.

I don't start talking about league goals scored on a Tuesday or whatever.

LOL

 

[Lowste]

I think what it does prove is we always appear to perform better in the second half of the season

Always seems to be the case

All in all we finish between 6th - 9th, some season we excel, some seasons we dip

Overall we sit in a comfortable position in the Prem.....

 

[mythbuster]

Don't know why you're all jumping on Dave here. All he's doing is using our last 20 games as a form guide. Think it's a fair amount of games to judge form on.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

I thought you were kidding at first, but you actually dont know what a calendar year is.

*sigh*

I do. Sure, it might commonly be used to mean Jan 1st to Dec 31st but it can also be used to mean a timespan of 12 months form any starting point :

1. a period of 365 or 366 days, in the Gregorian calendar, divided into 12 calendar months, now reckoned as beginning Jan. 1 and ending Dec. 31 (calendar year). Compare common year, leap year.
2. a period of the same length in other calendars.
3.
a. a space of 12 calendar months calculated from any point: We expect to finish in a year.
b. fiscal year.

Either way, it most definitely not 8 months and 15 days.

20 games = a 'snapshot'?

Have another go.


You must be alone in not ever having heard football people using a calendar year form guide to make a counterpoint to season long stats.

It's an orthodox marker to judge where a team is at. In this instance it puts Everton not too far away from the points tallies our peer group have amassed and another way of assessing exactly where we are as a team and how much ground we have to take back.

I'm sorry if the conclusions that must be drawn from that comparison point in a positive direction for us and doesn't emphasise the doom and gloom you and your cohorts would like to be the order of the day.

So why you used a period of 8 months then started talking about years i don't know. Well i do.

 

[Tubey]

Don't know why you're all jumping on Dave here. All he's doing is using our last 20 games as a form guide. Think it's a fair amount of games to judge form on.

Because it's not comparing like to like or looking at any context.

We were out of Europe for most of that time, and both domestic cups, whilst many of the others remained in, for example - both massive influences on performance.

It seems pointless to use 20 games and ignore the other 18. 'Form' would be your latest five games or whatever to look at the moment and compare to rivals. If you're going to use 20, you may as well use 38 - it's simply too wide in scope to glean anything useful from.

 

[ilikecheese]

I don't move the goalposts - they stay exactly the same. League goals. Always has been for me, always will be.

I don't start talking about league goals scored on a Tuesday or whatever.

It's OK to admit that he scored 20 goals last season.