The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

Is it time for Change...???

  • Kenwright an the Board out, We need Change.

    Votes: 503 80.0%
  • Im Happy with the way thing are. Kenwright an the Board should stay

    Votes: 126 20.0%

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Well it worked for them and they've now got owners willing to invest and take the club forward with redevelopment plans for the stadium. But hey ho, we can just sit here and drown in apathy instead because it's not cool to protest.

With regards to the sale of the club, was it not categorically stated during the Kirkby debacle by our own CEO that Everton aren't for sale?

Its not the principle of objecting that's the problem. Its the way it was/is being done. Don't march down the street. Don't spread lies. There's enough there simply in respect of no net investment.

As to Elstone's comments. I don't know the exact context but I do know its standard policy to confirm a "no change of control" as part of any planning application - think about it, its obvious.
 
Its not the principle of objecting that's the problem. Its the way it was/is being done. Don't march down the street. Don't spread lies. There's enough there simply in respect of no net investment.

As to Elstone's comments. I don't know the exact context but I do know its standard policy to confirm a "no change of control" as part of any planning application - think about it, its obvious.

He was under oath wasn't he ?
 
He was under oath wasn't he ?

At that time it could have been true. An hour later it can be all different.

All I'm saying is in every serious planning application you have to confirm who's going to be in control (of the subject planning consent)
 
Further to Dell Boys post above about the supposed asking price...I don't think anyone knows the asking price, because this is a constant variable depending on lots of factors...the state of the debt for one thing. The Usual Suspects have taken a quote(opinion?) from the broker Harris(the same guy that the FA would not let buy Portsmouth...) but there is no way to prove that Harris was anywhere near the mark. Personally I think that Bill is in a very difficult position , of his own making. I suspect he would like to sell but the others he has brought on board won't sell without (big) profit. Theres more but have to deal with an urgent work matter...will continue this later....

Back now....should not go on to an Everton Forum when an important phone call is likely to come through!
The fact that Bill Kenwright is what some people call a 'luvvie' and has his core business interest in the world of theatre and films in itself is looked upon by many Evertonians as a bit suspicious and is not the macho image that many would wish to be associated with 'their' club. Bills success in his core business is what has led him into serious problems in the running of Everton Football Club. In the theatre, when a producer wants to put on a new show, the finance is almost always obtained from investors(known as 'angels')...and while small investors can by shares in a new show, there are bigger players, with spare money, who invest regularly. An investment many years ago in Phantom Of The Opera would by now be very profitable, and will continue to be so. Bills own investments in Educating Rita and Stepping Out will pay him fairly handsomely for the rest of his life. So when Bill found himself Chairman of Everton, with limited knowledge of the football industry, and with negligible personal wealth in football terms, he fell back on the business method which had been successful for him in the theatre. He started to sell the dream of 'Everton' to potential investors ,usually those same investors who had made profits from his theatre shows...now I have to add an 'allegedly here....Gregg, Phil Green and others. Gregg used to buy run down theatres, refurbish, and rely largely on Bills touring versions of established stage hits for his profits...thats presumably, or alklegedly, how they became buddies.Then Bill 'sold the dream' of the KD to Gregg...after all, Gregg owned theatres and put shows on, and in Bills mind owning a stadium and putting on football matches was not a lot different. Its probable that Philip Green invested in Bills shows , and I have often wondered if this was the extent of the 'investment' that Green had in 'Bill Kenwright'...they were and still are close friends. The dream that Gregg was sold was the dream of big money for Gregg from the KD, and Bill being very good at selling dreams, sold it well. Trouble was, Everton couldn't get their part of the money together, and Bill, the natural publicist, had said that the money was 'ring fenced'...Bill I suspect thought that the banks would have no problem with the deal on the table, but for some reason the banks turned him down. As you can see, all trouble for Bill and largely of his own making, because he knew no other way to do business. Gregg was then removed by a method which was lets say, expedient. It happens all the time in show business, stories are told to absolve a situation ...the whole of show business is based on half truths, smoke and mirrors, and versions of 'the truth'. Trouble for Bill was that the football business is an entirely different animal, and the money involved is astronomical. Robert Earl came on board via Philip Green, apparently, because Bill sold him the dream of profits from DK...Earl saw opportunities for his chain of burger joints...but of course DK failed as well. So Earl now has shares in Everton, but won't sell unless he gets a good profit...a massive problem for Bill who actually knows that he has to sell soon.Jon Wood may also want a profit on his investment...although he is very definitely an Evertonian, and is very supportive of Bill. So...if you were Bill Kenwright in the current situation...would you not want to get out of the situation you had yourself created...not created deliberately, of course, and would you not know that the club must be sold soon, for your own peace of mind.
We are all different. Bill Kenwright thought he was doing right by 'saving' the club he loved when no one else was willing...but because he used the only business methods he knew, he finds himself in lets face it, an impossible position. We still need the RIGHT owners, but we do need new owners, and owners who understand and have the ante to compete in the modern day business that is Premier League football.
 
Back now....should not go on to an Everton Forum when an important phone call is likely to come through!
The fact that Bill Kenwright is what some people call a 'luvvie' and has his core business interest in the world of theatre and films in itself is looked upon by many Evertonians as a bit suspicious and is not the macho image that many would wish to be associated with 'their' club. Bills success in his core business is what has led him into serious problems in the running of Everton Football Club. In the theatre, when a producer wants to put on a new show, the finance is almost always obtained from investors(known as 'angels')...and while small investors can by shares in a new show, there are bigger players, with spare money, who invest regularly. An investment many years ago in Phantom Of The Opera would by now be very profitable, and will continue to be so. Bills own investments in Educating Rita and Stepping Out will pay him fairly handsomely for the rest of his life. So when Bill found himself Chairman of Everton, with limited knowledge of the football industry, and with negligible personal wealth in football terms, he fell back on the business method which had been successful for him in the theatre. He started to sell the dream of 'Everton' to potential investors ,usually those same investors who had made profits from his theatre shows...now I have to add an 'allegedly here....Gregg, Phil Green and others. Gregg used to buy run down theatres, refurbish, and rely largely on Bills touring versions of established stage hits for his profits...thats presumably, or alklegedly, how they became buddies.Then Bill 'sold the dream' of the KD to Gregg...after all, Gregg owned theatres and put shows on, and in Bills mind owning a stadium and putting on football matches was not a lot different. Its probable that Philip Green invested in Bills shows , and I have often wondered if this was the extent of the 'investment' that Green had in 'Bill Kenwright'...they were and still are close friends. The dream that Gregg was sold was the dream of big money for Gregg from the KD, and Bill being very good at selling dreams, sold it well. Trouble was, Everton couldn't get their part of the money together, and Bill, the natural publicist, had said that the money was 'ring fenced'...Bill I suspect thought that the banks would have no problem with the deal on the table, but for some reason the banks turned him down. As you can see, all trouble for Bill and largely of his own making, because he knew no other way to do business. Gregg was then removed by a method which was lets say, expedient. It happens all the time in show business, stories are told to absolve a situation ...the whole of show business is based on half truths, smoke and mirrors, and versions of 'the truth'. Trouble for Bill was that the football business is an entirely different animal, and the money involved is astronomical. Robert Earl came on board via Philip Green, apparently, because Bill sold him the dream of profits from DK...Earl saw opportunities for his chain of burger joints...but of course DK failed as well. So Earl now has shares in Everton, but won't sell unless he gets a good profit...a massive problem for Bill who actually knows that he has to sell soon.Jon Wood may also want a profit on his investment...although he is very definitely an Evertonian, and is very supportive of Bill. So...if you were Bill Kenwright in the current situation...would you not want to get out of the situation you had yourself created...not created deliberately, of course, and would you not know that the club must be sold soon, for your own peace of mind.
We are all different. Bill Kenwright thought he was doing right by 'saving' the club he loved when no one else was willing...but because he used the only business methods he knew, he finds himself in lets face it, an impossible position. We still need the RIGHT owners, but we do need new owners, and owners who understand and have the ante to compete in the modern day business that is Premier League football.
how much does earle own steve ???
 
Back now....should not go on to an Everton Forum when an important phone call is likely to come through!
The fact that Bill Kenwright is what some people call a 'luvvie' and has his core business interest in the world of theatre and films in itself is looked upon by many Evertonians as a bit suspicious and is not the macho image that many would wish to be associated with 'their' club. Bills success in his core business is what has led him into serious problems in the running of Everton Football Club. In the theatre, when a producer wants to put on a new show, the finance is almost always obtained from investors(known as 'angels')...and while small investors can by shares in a new show, there are bigger players, with spare money, who invest regularly. An investment many years ago in Phantom Of The Opera would by now be very profitable, and will continue to be so. Bills own investments in Educating Rita and Stepping Out will pay him fairly handsomely for the rest of his life. So when Bill found himself Chairman of Everton, with limited knowledge of the football industry, and with negligible personal wealth in football terms, he fell back on the business method which had been successful for him in the theatre. He started to sell the dream of 'Everton' to potential investors ,usually those same investors who had made profits from his theatre shows...now I have to add an 'allegedly here....Gregg, Phil Green and others. Gregg used to buy run down theatres, refurbish, and rely largely on Bills touring versions of established stage hits for his profits...thats presumably, or alklegedly, how they became buddies.Then Bill 'sold the dream' of the KD to Gregg...after all, Gregg owned theatres and put shows on, and in Bills mind owning a stadium and putting on football matches was not a lot different. Its probable that Philip Green invested in Bills shows , and I have often wondered if this was the extent of the 'investment' that Green had in 'Bill Kenwright'...they were and still are close friends. The dream that Gregg was sold was the dream of big money for Gregg from the KD, and Bill being very good at selling dreams, sold it well. Trouble was, Everton couldn't get their part of the money together, and Bill, the natural publicist, had said that the money was 'ring fenced'...Bill I suspect thought that the banks would have no problem with the deal on the table, but for some reason the banks turned him down. As you can see, all trouble for Bill and largely of his own making, because he knew no other way to do business. Gregg was then removed by a method which was lets say, expedient. It happens all the time in show business, stories are told to absolve a situation ...the whole of show business is based on half truths, smoke and mirrors, and versions of 'the truth'. Trouble for Bill was that the football business is an entirely different animal, and the money involved is astronomical. Robert Earl came on board via Philip Green, apparently, because Bill sold him the dream of profits from DK...Earl saw opportunities for his chain of burger joints...but of course DK failed as well. So Earl now has shares in Everton, but won't sell unless he gets a good profit...a massive problem for Bill who actually knows that he has to sell soon.Jon Wood may also want a profit on his investment...although he is very definitely an Evertonian, and is very supportive of Bill. So...if you were Bill Kenwright in the current situation...would you not want to get out of the situation you had yourself created...not created deliberately, of course, and would you not know that the club must be sold soon, for your own peace of mind.
We are all different. Bill Kenwright thought he was doing right by 'saving' the club he loved when no one else was willing...but because he used the only business methods he knew, he finds himself in lets face it, an impossible position. We still need the RIGHT owners, but we do need new owners, and owners who understand and have the ante to compete in the modern day business that is Premier League football.

 
Back now....should not go on to an Everton Forum when an important phone call is likely to come through!
The fact that Bill Kenwright is what some people call a 'luvvie' and has his core business interest in the world of theatre and films in itself is looked upon by many Evertonians as a bit suspicious and is not the macho image that many would wish to be associated with 'their' club. Bills success in his core business is what has led him into serious problems in the running of Everton Football Club. In the theatre, when a producer wants to put on a new show, the finance is almost always obtained from investors(known as 'angels')...and while small investors can by shares in a new show, there are bigger players, with spare money, who invest regularly. An investment many years ago in Phantom Of The Opera would by now be very profitable, and will continue to be so. Bills own investments in Educating Rita and Stepping Out will pay him fairly handsomely for the rest of his life. So when Bill found himself Chairman of Everton, with limited knowledge of the football industry, and with negligible personal wealth in football terms, he fell back on the business method which had been successful for him in the theatre. He started to sell the dream of 'Everton' to potential investors ,usually those same investors who had made profits from his theatre shows...now I have to add an 'allegedly here....Gregg, Phil Green and others. Gregg used to buy run down theatres, refurbish, and rely largely on Bills touring versions of established stage hits for his profits...thats presumably, or alklegedly, how they became buddies.Then Bill 'sold the dream' of the KD to Gregg...after all, Gregg owned theatres and put shows on, and in Bills mind owning a stadium and putting on football matches was not a lot different. Its probable that Philip Green invested in Bills shows , and I have often wondered if this was the extent of the 'investment' that Green had in 'Bill Kenwright'...they were and still are close friends. The dream that Gregg was sold was the dream of big money for Gregg from the KD, and Bill being very good at selling dreams, sold it well. Trouble was, Everton couldn't get their part of the money together, and Bill, the natural publicist, had said that the money was 'ring fenced'...Bill I suspect thought that the banks would have no problem with the deal on the table, but for some reason the banks turned him down. As you can see, all trouble for Bill and largely of his own making, because he knew no other way to do business. Gregg was then removed by a method which was lets say, expedient. It happens all the time in show business, stories are told to absolve a situation ...the whole of show business is based on half truths, smoke and mirrors, and versions of 'the truth'. Trouble for Bill was that the football business is an entirely different animal, and the money involved is astronomical. Robert Earl came on board via Philip Green, apparently, because Bill sold him the dream of profits from DK...Earl saw opportunities for his chain of burger joints...but of course DK failed as well. So Earl now has shares in Everton, but won't sell unless he gets a good profit...a massive problem for Bill who actually knows that he has to sell soon.Jon Wood may also want a profit on his investment...although he is very definitely an Evertonian, and is very supportive of Bill. So...if you were Bill Kenwright in the current situation...would you not want to get out of the situation you had yourself created...not created deliberately, of course, and would you not know that the club must be sold soon, for your own peace of mind.
We are all different. Bill Kenwright thought he was doing right by 'saving' the club he loved when no one else was willing...but because he used the only business methods he knew, he finds himself in lets face it, an impossible position. We still need the RIGHT owners, but we do need new owners, and owners who understand and have the ante to compete in the modern day business that is Premier League football.

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So the guy who Bill himself has said he speaks to 'every day' with regard to him brokering a deal to sell the club has no idea of the ball park asking price figure? Get real.

And you are questioning his credibility! Who do you think has got him involved with selling Everton for christs sake!!

Yes I am...if he's the same guy who presented Bill K with am inventor in a bedsit as a potential buyer.....Is harris still involved in the 'potential sale' of Everton?
 
Further to Dell Boys post above about the supposed asking price...I don't think anyone knows the asking price, because this is a constant variable depending on lots of factors...the state of the debt for one thing. The Usual Suspects have taken a quote(opinion?) from the broker Harris(the same guy that the FA would not let buy Portsmouth...) but there is no way to prove that Harris was anywhere near the mark. Personally I think that Bill is in a very difficult position , of his own making. I suspect he would like to sell but the others he has brought on board won't sell without (big) profit. Theres more but have to deal with an urgent work matter...will continue this later....

He must have known that hitching Everton's wagon to those two spivs was going to be catastrophic for the club. He did that for personal reasons, putting his own circumstances above the club. It wasn't an accidental and unfortunate turn of events. It's a sick joke that feller's thought of as 'Blue Bill'. He's killed this club stone dead for a generation and counting.
 
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