dandydan
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Nor that it was a Tory who lied to the electorate to get us in.
The EU deal
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davek
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All the polls running either neck and neck or with a Stay/Remain majority: dont ring true to me. It sounds very dodgy in fact.
If that referendum was tomorrow I'm pretty sure there'd be about 70% minimum voting to leave. No one has a good word to say about the EU in my experience.
Defo manipulation of expectation going on here.
If that referendum was tomorrow I'm pretty sure there'd be about 70% minimum voting to leave. No one has a good word to say about the EU in my experience.
Defo manipulation of expectation going on here.
dandydan
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Look at the general election polling, I don't think we're going to get any clear indicators until the exit poll.
davek
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Even there it was a matter of a few % points being out that gave a small majority rather than the expected hung parliament. This seems to me to be vastly different altogether. I mean about 15% points out or something. It just doesn't feel remotely right to me.
This situation is so dangerous for the political and business class of the UK and the United States influence over Europe that every single thing will be manipulated to engineer the 'right' result.
dandydan
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Completely agree! There are far too many vested interests that rely on a vote to stay in.
The Equaliser
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Yet another Tory MP on the news blabbering on about the UK being "an island". So insular they don't even realise it has a land border with another EU state.
Mind boggling arrogance.
Mind boggling arrogance.
An EU state which wishes it never joined the EU because it was the worst thing to happen to it...
The Equaliser
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The UK government is refusing to apply for £125Million of free EU Disaster money it's eligible for to help those wiped out by the flooding last year. Is it because it doesn't want the EU to be seen to have any use? or do they not give a stuff because they are in the North and don't vote Tory?
Surely for a Government desperate not to spend any of it's own money on such areas, outside money would be most welcome?
UK only days away from losing £125m EU flood fund aid, says Farron
Lib Dem leader, whose Cumbrian constituency was badly hit by December’s floods, says government’s failure to apply for funds is ‘utter betrayal of victims’
Monday 22 February 2016 17.08 GMT
Last modified on Monday 22 February 201618.57 GMT
The government has been accused of being too busy arguing about Europe instead of helping communities hit by flooding in the UK, after it emerged that it has only five days left to apply for a pot of at least £125m in EU funds to tackle natural disasters.
The Liberal Democrat leader, Tim Farron, whose constituency of Westmorland and Lonsdale was badly affected by December’s floods, said the government needed “to get its act together” before the 27 February deadline.
The European Union solidarity fund was set up to help member states cope with natural disasters following the severe floods in central Europe in 2002.
Farron said: “David Cameron has delivered an EU deal for his Conservative MPs, now he must deliver EU funding for those people whose lives were devastated by the recent floods.
“This money is there for the taking,” he said. “It would be an utter betrayal of flood victims in the north of England not to apply. The government must get its act together and secure this funding before it is too late.”
The accountancy firm KPMG has estimated the total cost of the damage caused by flooding in the north of England this winter to be £5bn, meaning the UK could be eligible for at least £125m of funding.
But to qualify, the government must apply within 12 weeks of when the natural disaster began. As Storm Desmond hit northern England on 5 December, the deadline to apply is Saturday 27 February.
During a visit to Brussels on Thursday, Farron presented a petition signed by 2,063 of his constituents to MEPs from the committee of the regions. The MEPs confirmed they would approve a grant as soon as they received an application from UK government.
The European commission has confirmed that the UK would be eligible for the grant but that no application had yet been made, despite the deadline being five days away.
In 2008, the UK received £134m from the fund to help deal with the aftermath of major floods the previous year.
The EU solidarity fund has given more than €3.7bn (£2.9bn) to help member states deal with some 70 disasters, including floods, forest fires, earthquakes, storms and drought.
The fund granted €16.2m to Greece and Bulgaria in 2015 to tackle damage caused by winter flooding earlier in the year and€66.5m to Romania, Italy and Bulgaria for flooding in 2014.
A government source said they had not ruled out applying to the EU solidarity fund but the fund was limited in the support it could provide. The source argued that money from the fund would not provide financial support for the majority of homes or businesses, as it does not compensate for private losses, and that the grant would take several months to come through.
A Department for Communities and Local Government spokesman said: “We are committed to supporting communities hit by the recent flooding. We have opened the Bellwin scheme for local authorities, with 100% of eligible costs to be met by the government, and our investment in recovery from Storm Eva and Storm Desmond now stands at nearly £200m.
“This will help people directly affected by the floods, support homeowners protect their properties and ensure flood-affected businesses that have had their trading disrupted can get back on their feet,” he said.
Surely for a Government desperate not to spend any of it's own money on such areas, outside money would be most welcome?
UK only days away from losing £125m EU flood fund aid, says Farron
Lib Dem leader, whose Cumbrian constituency was badly hit by December’s floods, says government’s failure to apply for funds is ‘utter betrayal of victims’
Monday 22 February 2016 17.08 GMT
Last modified on Monday 22 February 201618.57 GMT
The government has been accused of being too busy arguing about Europe instead of helping communities hit by flooding in the UK, after it emerged that it has only five days left to apply for a pot of at least £125m in EU funds to tackle natural disasters.
The Liberal Democrat leader, Tim Farron, whose constituency of Westmorland and Lonsdale was badly affected by December’s floods, said the government needed “to get its act together” before the 27 February deadline.
The European Union solidarity fund was set up to help member states cope with natural disasters following the severe floods in central Europe in 2002.
Farron said: “David Cameron has delivered an EU deal for his Conservative MPs, now he must deliver EU funding for those people whose lives were devastated by the recent floods.
“This money is there for the taking,” he said. “It would be an utter betrayal of flood victims in the north of England not to apply. The government must get its act together and secure this funding before it is too late.”
The accountancy firm KPMG has estimated the total cost of the damage caused by flooding in the north of England this winter to be £5bn, meaning the UK could be eligible for at least £125m of funding.
But to qualify, the government must apply within 12 weeks of when the natural disaster began. As Storm Desmond hit northern England on 5 December, the deadline to apply is Saturday 27 February.
During a visit to Brussels on Thursday, Farron presented a petition signed by 2,063 of his constituents to MEPs from the committee of the regions. The MEPs confirmed they would approve a grant as soon as they received an application from UK government.
The European commission has confirmed that the UK would be eligible for the grant but that no application had yet been made, despite the deadline being five days away.
In 2008, the UK received £134m from the fund to help deal with the aftermath of major floods the previous year.
The EU solidarity fund has given more than €3.7bn (£2.9bn) to help member states deal with some 70 disasters, including floods, forest fires, earthquakes, storms and drought.
The fund granted €16.2m to Greece and Bulgaria in 2015 to tackle damage caused by winter flooding earlier in the year and€66.5m to Romania, Italy and Bulgaria for flooding in 2014.
A government source said they had not ruled out applying to the EU solidarity fund but the fund was limited in the support it could provide. The source argued that money from the fund would not provide financial support for the majority of homes or businesses, as it does not compensate for private losses, and that the grant would take several months to come through.
A Department for Communities and Local Government spokesman said: “We are committed to supporting communities hit by the recent flooding. We have opened the Bellwin scheme for local authorities, with 100% of eligible costs to be met by the government, and our investment in recovery from Storm Eva and Storm Desmond now stands at nearly £200m.
“This will help people directly affected by the floods, support homeowners protect their properties and ensure flood-affected businesses that have had their trading disrupted can get back on their feet,” he said.
I know where you're coming from. I'm suffering some serious cognitive dissonance at the moment, I'm leaning towards 'out' whilst knowing that's exactly what that rubber faced cretin Michael Gove wants. How the hell can I share the same opinion on ANYTHING as that moron?'sake....
Grayling on Tv in the 'out' camp. Nothing at all corrupt or competent about him.
*Returns to 'remain' *
A precursor to a new world order...
magicjuan
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In the same way the Scottish referendum was swayed, using scaremongering.
The yes side will push a 'right wing / immigration' bias angle at the 'no' camp , claiming anyone and everyone wanting to leave is some nazi bigot, yet almost all of my left leanjng friends, myself included, want out.
If this became a single issue argument on immigration it would be wrong. There are so many arguments and reasons to be covered prior to a vote. I'm already uncomfortable being aligned with the likes of Farage, Johnson and IBS (sic)
magicjuan
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What some describe as NWO exists now, it craves legitimacy though which is why it gets the proles to actually want it, vote for it, support it and welcome it, as long as it doesn't clash with Ant n Dec they'll be fine.
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