The Bubble Has Burst

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That's evolution. I don't get the allure of watching a bunch of fat and slow guys representing their teams simply because they were born there.

For having a pretty progressive fanbase this club does have a streak of xenophobia.

The most recent high profile case of racism with regards to the two merseyside clubs, involved the red neighbours.I am of course referring to the Suarez/Evra incident.Everton have fans from all corners of the world.So im not sure what you are driving at here to be honest.
 
The most recent high profile case of racism with regards to the two merseyside clubs, involved the red neighbours.I am of course referring to the Suarez/Evra incident.Everton have fans from all corners of the world.So im not sure what you are driving at here to be honest.

Think he was pointing it about Rangers fans and their love for Tommy Robinson.
 
The most recent high profile case of racism with regards to the two merseyside clubs, involved the red neighbours.I am of course referring to the Suarez/Evra incident.Everton have fans from all corners of the world.So im not sure what you are driving at here to be honest.

This post is bait. Not going for it.
 
That's evolution. I don't get the allure of watching a bunch of fat and slow guys representing their teams simply because they were born there.

For having a pretty progressive fanbase this club does have a streak of xenophobia.
Careful. You may cut yourself on that edge
 
Unfortunately the reality of the bubble bursting won’t be that the premier league stops being a paddock to parade the toys sheiks, oligarchs and hedge funds, but rather the bottom of the pyramid will disappear.

look around the world and we’re the only country to have fully professional football at 3rd and 4th tiers.

we don’t have a larger population or any significantly greater passion for the game than Spain, Germany, Italy, but we have a larger number of people who stick by “their”club and to whom it means the world.

before this, bury and Bolton went pop. Before them plenty of others.

after we return to some kind of normality after this virus goes it won’t be Chelsea, Man Utd, et al that feel the pain, it will be Carlisle United, Preston, Leyton Orient, Barnsley and others.

If sky have to reign in their sponsorship for example, where will they pull it from first? Not the cash cow that is the premier league.

maybe the effects reach a Bournemouth, Norwich or Brighton at premier league level, but they’re not establishment. They are currently borrowing a place at the table as far as the establishment teams are likely concerned.

bubble bursting or not, the biggest clubs will survive and likely prosper as the gap between have and have nots will widen.

it’s no different to the economy overall.

we’ll go through economic hardship here. People will be out of work, businesses will go pop, life will be hard for a good few years, but by and large we’ll come through it. There will be people who lose their homes, and many who lose their lives, but overall we’ll be ‘ok’ because we’re a rich country.

the gap between rich and poor in our country will increase, but nothing like to the extent that the gap between the pain we feel and the pain felt in Africa will increase.

This weekend, in an attempt to feel a bit more normality in testing times, I had a drive out to go to b&q as they’ve reopened some stores.

the queue was too long for me to be arsed with it, so I went to the supermarket to do my shopping instead. It was an inconvenience and I’d rather have been able to do what I planned to do, but on the news at 10 the night before I’d watched African families being crushed in a stampede for basic food which was being delivered.
 
If the bubble has burst - which it hasn't - then we can kiss goodbye to our new stadium and will be playing in the disheveled Goodison forever more while our counterparts have at least moved in to their new grounds or massively upgraded their existing ones.
 
That's weird because most people in the states would say outside of the financial side of things, the league is poorly ran and evem similar to the PL.

Moving monday night football to cable. Creating thursday night football that you could only watch on their channel that is awful games, and requires a premium subscription on most providers. Wasn't even offered on Time Warner for awhile. Awful ticket prices that price average fans out, can move games on just two week notice.
A big difference is the NFL has always been a TV sport to most, so a lot of people genuinely don't care about ticket prices and kickoff times being all over the place. English football isn't like that I don't think. People until recently mostly had to go to the ground to see it.

TNF is horrible for the players and is pretty crap 3 or 4 out of 5 games, but I'm fine with it. Modern entertainment is what it is and the NFL is just playing to that. Maybe we run in different types of circles, but I don't hear many complaints about how the NFL delivers their product aside from everyone hating Booger.

Honestly I still hear more complaints about the players kneeling during the national anthem 3 years ago.
 
The premier league will go back to how it was. Other leagues will be decimated and nobody will care apart from those clubs supporters.

Mainly because humans are stupid.
 
A big difference is the NFL has always been a TV sport to most, so a lot of people genuinely don't care about ticket prices and kickoff times being all over the place. English football isn't like that I don't think. People until recently mostly had to go to the ground to see it.

TNF is horrible for the players and is pretty crap 3 or 4 out of 5 games, but I'm fine with it. Modern entertainment is what it is and the NFL is just playing to that. Maybe we run in different types of circles, but I don't hear many complaints about how the NFL delivers their product aside from everyone hating Booger.

Honestly I still hear more complaints about the players kneeling during the national anthem 3 years ago.

On the subject of Merican sports in general, is there a fan culture similar to out football one here?

Like, not do loads love their sport, its obvious they do, but is there long standing, bitter rivalries, songs and chants at the games, away supporters? That sort of stuff.
 
On the subject of Merican sports in general, is there a fan culture similar to out football one here?

Like, not do loads love their sport, its obvious they do, but is there long standing, bitter rivalries, songs and chants at the games, away supporters? That sort of stuff.
We don't really do singing at the games the same way football supporters do, although every NFL team does have some type of song. The Eagles for example will sing it after touchdowns, but it is still a bit different. Rivalries definitely yes, they're a bit more long distance than the English ones just because of the amount of space over here, but they exist.

Away supporters aren't legislated at all in pro sports so if you want to buy a ticket and support the away team sitting among masses of home fans that is your choice. Some times it goes ok and others it doesn't. I actually wish the NFL would do an away section. I think it adds to the in stadium environment. The SEC does it for college and it seems to go pretty well so it could be done if they wanted to.

It obviously has its differences, but I'd say the overall spirit is the same in that all anyone is doing is watching a team they like, meeting some friends, having a few beers and enjoying a day away from the usual stresses of life.
 
I love to say that I hope the whole thing goes pop, but the truth - difficult as I may find it to accept - is that I don't, and do as much as anyone to keep the corporate ball rolling. I want Everton to have 3 o'clock kick offs on a saturday, and I'm quick to moan about the inconvenience to me when I have to get to Norwich for a 12 30 kick off or something, but then i love being able to watch that 12 30 game on TV when it suits me.

I was away on a stag do not long before all this kicked off and spent pretty much the whole saturday in different pubs watching PL games one after the other with my mates, it was brilliant. I'd be lying if I said I wanted that aspect of things to stop.
 
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