The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Walken]

I love this country. I just think we could better safeguard our future with an immigration system which benefits the population and doesn't put it at risk. It could be a lot better than what it is.

Youre the one that wants open unchecked immigration mate. Why for every 5 sound hard working people we get lets also let in a couple of murderers or rapists as well! GOOD RATIOZ M8.

Girl murdered. CLAP CLAP 4 PROGRESSIVE THINKING.

Using an isolated incident to prove a generalised argument sounds a bit desperate im afraid

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That's a good argument for more state intervention in the economy and reining in the financiers. Good point Bruce.

I fear the state are as hooked on debt as everyone else. They have no desire to rein them in at all (if they even understood most of what they do in the first place)

 

[Bruce Wayne]

But they have complete control over the things that really matter to people outside of the economy, and to many people the really important matters such as education, healthcare, social care, foreign policy, security and constitutional matters.

Equally I would argue that the macro-economic policies matter hugely too, they enable or make difficult most of the economic activity you are talking about.

To me it is the fundamental dishonesty of saying that the opposition party has an appalling economic record (when it did not) and that ruling party has an excellent economic record (which it doesn't) that I am trying to highlight here.

Again though, I'd suggest that control has severe limitations. The NHS for instance, largely take an interest in our health only when we become sick. There is very little involvement in actually keeping us healthy, which is really what healthcare should be about. The state have very little say in how we eat/drink, how much we exercise and so on.

Likewise with education. I know it'd be nice to think that we only learn things in the classroom, but if you asked most adults, I would certainly hope to hear that they've learned an awful lot more outside of the classroom than they ever have inside of it. If schools focused on providing people with a love of learning and the skills to do it throughout their life then I'd agree that they are hugely influential, but in reality most are just there to give people certain facts, and the usefulness of those facts is often very limited.

Re the dishonesty bit, they're politicians, dishonesty is kind of par for the course isn't it? Especially with an election looming All of the parties will be trying to spin and dodge over the next few months to try and paint themselves in as good a light as possible, and the rest in as bad a light as possible.

 

[rascal]

It is our job to hold politicians accountable to their lies and their rewriting of history to suit their agenda.

 

[EFCNIK]

Using an isolated incident to prove a generalised argument sounds a bit desperate im afraid

1. Its not an isolated incident. Thousands of people have become the victims of European crime whether it be rape, fraud or anything else.
2. Even if it was, 1 innocent girl is too many.

 

[Del]

1. Its not an isolated incident. Thousands of people have become the victims of European crime whether it be rape, fraud or anything else.
2. Even if it was, 1 innocent girl is too many.

Of course they have, We live in Europe ffs

WHAT

 

[EFCNIK]

Of course they have, We live in Europe ffs

WHAT

U NO WUT I MEEN DEL

Elsewhere in Europe, namely Eastern Europe. Everyone knows Britain isn't really Europe anyway, just on paper.

 

[Del]

U NO WUT I MEEN DEL

Elsewhere in Europe, namely Eastern Europe. Everyone knows Britain isn't really Europe anyway, just on paper.

Are you saying all eastern Europeans are murders and rapists Nik?

In shock here

 

[EFCNIK]

Are you saying all eastern Europeans are murders and rapists Nik?

In shock here

Yes that's what Im saying Del. I've never trusted that @DualityNSNO

 

[Del]

Yes that's what Im saying Del. I've never trusted that @DualityNSNO

He tried to rape my dog mate, Said if I went to the police he would set up a gypsy camp in my front garden

*Weeps*

 

[EFCNIK]

He tried to rape my dog mate, Said if I went to the police he would set up a gypsy camp in my front garden

*Weeps*

Typical faux ruski.

 

[rascal]

Nice of Cameron to unequivocally announce his intentions to take from the poor to give to the rich.

 

[EFCNIK]

Nice of Cameron to unequivocally announce his intentions to take from the poor to give to the rich.

Of course that's what hes doing.

 

[Donald Twain]

http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-a...d-has-run-out-of-excuses-for-opposing-an-eu-r

I still don't understand why Ed is refusing to back an EU referendum, he's got nothing to lose. The referendum isn't going to happen anyway, if we leave the EU it won't be because of a referendum. It's just mindboggling, it reminds me of the time Brown decided not to call a snap election when he became PM, he would have slaughtered us in the polls, the economy was literally at its peak, the troops were starting to come home from Iraq, it would have been a bloodbath for the Tories in the polls, a total landslide. There's something wrong with Labour leaders, they have seriously bad advisers. Keep it up Ed and we're looking at a second term.

Face it boyo your out on your arses come 2015 and no amount of tub thumping and self kidding on here is going to change it! But you keep fighting the good fight.

 

[rascal]

Why does Cameron continuously use his tragically deceased son in his speeches?

He is using him as cover to further dismantle the NHS. I can't think of any other word than the four letter word beginning with C, ending in T with U and N in the middle.