The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Seanjd]

Well that is where we differ mate. Lobbing money at something seems to be the answer to everything for some. Better allocation of a resource might be a more effective and long term benefit.

And re fee paying, if the state system was as good as them, (as it is down here), there would no need for them.

And if some rich(ish) family want to pay £0000's in school fees, when a superb state system is available, well, more fool them.

I know quite a few "products" of both systems down here, (North Somerset/Bristol/Cheltenham), and I know which ones I would employ or want my daughter to shack up with. If I had one that is.

The prestige attached with attending a private school vastly out-weighs the quality of teaching in them. It is common knowledge that private schools are not required to employ qualified teachers for example. Many private schools are in the elite circle which will write well on anybody's CV, anybody who can afford to pay for that privilege of course. The quality of teaching is no better. That, I am convinced of.

 

[kenada_blue]

Plan by NHS Supply Chain to deal with backlog of patients waiting for surgery and tests will see 11 companies paid £780m to diagnose and treat patients

Well, well, well....

 

[Mrtallywacker]

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

 

[Clint Planet]

The prestige attached with attending a private school vastly out-weighs the quality of teaching in them. It is common knowledge that private schools are not required to employ qualified teachers for example. Many private schools are in the elite circle which will write well on anybody's CV, anybody who can afford to pay for that privilege of course. The quality of teaching is no better. That, I am convinced of.

Agreed.

What's more, private schools are a massive Achilles Heal of this country and cause more harm than good.

 

[Clint Planet]

Titus 3:9
But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

Get stretched, Titus, you fool. You're working for The Man.

 

[Mrtallywacker]

Get stretched, Titus, you fool. You're working for The Man.

Think he's offering you a straightener @Titus Bramble.

 

[Titus Bramble]

Get stretched, Titus, you fool. You're working for The Man.

I work for no man...




















... My boss is a woman.

 

[Mrtallywacker]

James 3:1-2
Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. For we all stumble in many ways. And if anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle his whole body.

 

[roydo]

People often say things like this. I'm not sure exactly what it means. It seems like something that's just trotted out as a matter of course. Maybe I'm wrong - I really don't know. I'm bemused.

How did Labour get it wrong? How are the Tories getting it right? How could the money have been better allocated? How do you know this to be right?

Never said Tories got it right.

What I mean is, that politicians of both sides seem to think that the boast that they spent this amount or that amount in someway wins an arguement.

 

[roydo]

This is completely misguided and unhelpful, by the way.

What I mean is Clint, maybe badly put, is why not get the state system to emulate the, perceived, superior public schools?

Surely you would welcome that ambition?

 

[roydo]

The quality of teaching is no better. That, I am convinced of.

Yep.

 

[Clint Planet]

What I mean is Clint, maybe badly put, is why not get the state system to emulate the, perceived, superior public schools?

Surely you would welcome that ambition?

From where I'm sitting, state schools are better than private ones, all things considered. The reasons private ones might be "better" are (a) the cachet they carry just for bring private (b) smaller class sizes (c) better funded (d) more supported by parents.

I'm not sure how "ambition" comes into it. My ambition is to end the inequality of resourcing by bringing private schools into the public sector.

 

[peteblue]

From where I'm sitting, state schools are better than private ones, all things considered. The reasons private ones might be "better" are (a) the cachet they carry just for bring private (b) smaller class sizes (c) better funded (d) more supported by parents.

I'm not sure how "ambition" comes into it. My ambition is to end the inequality of resourcing by bringing private schools into the public sector.

That's pure 'let's move everyone down to a common base'. If private schools are as bad as you suggest then just leave them alone. No one, and I mean no one, is clamouring for private schools to be 'raised' to the standards of the public sector. The people who spend a lot of money to educate their kids at these schools seem to be happy with the results.....

 

[peteblue]

.....think Labour have really missed a trick not getting the 'Northern Powerhaouse' idea first. Really clever ploy from the Tory's to cut off criticism that they are a party of the South. Labour do appear to have a poor strategy.

And a poor leader.....

 

[Clint Planet]

That's pure 'let's move everyone down to a common base'.

No it isn't. It absolutely isn't.