roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
To be fair, you mean in the other wing, and it is quite a trek now the staff have retired for the evening.
The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )
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To be fair, you mean in the other wing, and it is quite a trek now the staff have retired for the evening.
The missus has gone on strike. I wasn't paying her enough apparently. Bloody cheek.
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Get a cheap East European in mate. Oh, hang on.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
Dude, you want to do away with unions. You think they have "zero credibility on anything."
And what's with this ad hominem "lacky" rubbish?
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The union that I am in have done nothing but take £6 per week from me. I have no idea what their purpose is.
Yes, I do want to do away with them. I think that unions should ultimately be working towards a situation whereby they're no longer needed (in their current guise).
There's a whole host of stuff, for instance, these days on the power of collective intelligence. How often have trade unions pooled the collective intelligence of their members towards tackling a particular problem in their line of work? It may have happened, but I certainly haven't heard of it.
That's not to say the unions are the only ones complicit in this because nearly all of the professional bodies are just as poor in this way. Only the RSA really do anything in joining their members together for something useful (and I don't regard a picket line as useful btw) with their Catalyst and SkillsBank initiatives.
That would be a valuable use of the unions imo.
I mean the NHS (for instance - but I'm sure education too) has a big challenge with both identifying things that are working really well and disseminating that more widely. That would be a positive use for a trade union imo, to trumpet the positive deviants within the system that are doing great things, and helping to spread that goodness throughout the workforce.
I don't recall ever seeing something like that happen though. If they used their position to try and advance things for everyone (including employer and customer) then I'd be fully supportive of them. Alas it seems they don't ever seem to do that, which is a real shame.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
Without the collective will of people in unions, or acting together, management and the government walk all over people and make their conditions of employment and/or their lives worse.
I worked at Fords assemble trucks and when they would change the model the engineers would rely on us, trade unionists, to sort out any problems that would arise with the assembly process. Collectively we sorted any problems out. Happens all the time in industry. Also when firms are in trouble the unions will always try and save the firm by sometimes taking a wage cut/work less hours. The unions are always using their 'collective intelligence' to solve problems. It is more often than not that they are not listened to.
There are many many instances of care homes/hospitals/hospital wards that are threatened with closure and the collective will of the trade unions and/or the local people have kept them open. Due to the arguments of those involved.
It was never rocket science that the introduction of PFI would cause major problems down the road and be very expensive and lead to the privatisation of most public services health and education but to mention 2. The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership between the EU and the USA will accelerate the privatisation of the health service and education as US health and education providers are waiting in the wings to pounce of public money. A no brainer for them as it is guaranteed money in the bank.
Trade unions are using their 'collective intelligence' to oppose a blatant 'free trade' agreement that will not benefit the people of the UK.
I have the ability to use my hands and brains to do a job and have found the biggest culprits of lack of intelligence has been management. They have often hindered good working practices and made the collective lives of workers worse. Trade unions are there for a reason and without them things would be far worse than they are now for most people in or out of work.
I worked at Fords assemble trucks and when they would change the model the engineers would rely on us, trade unionists, to sort out any problems that would arise with the assembly process. Collectively we sorted any problems out. Happens all the time in industry. Also when firms are in trouble the unions will always try and save the firm by sometimes taking a wage cut/work less hours. The unions are always using their 'collective intelligence' to solve problems. It is more often than not that they are not listened to.
There are many many instances of care homes/hospitals/hospital wards that are threatened with closure and the collective will of the trade unions and/or the local people have kept them open. Due to the arguments of those involved.
It was never rocket science that the introduction of PFI would cause major problems down the road and be very expensive and lead to the privatisation of most public services health and education but to mention 2. The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership between the EU and the USA will accelerate the privatisation of the health service and education as US health and education providers are waiting in the wings to pounce of public money. A no brainer for them as it is guaranteed money in the bank.
Trade unions are using their 'collective intelligence' to oppose a blatant 'free trade' agreement that will not benefit the people of the UK.
I have the ability to use my hands and brains to do a job and have found the biggest culprits of lack of intelligence has been management. They have often hindered good working practices and made the collective lives of workers worse. Trade unions are there for a reason and without them things would be far worse than they are now for most people in or out of work.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
*awaits another Life of Brian quip from Bruce*
are you talking historically there, because that is quite some statement if you are
No, present day. Not much point looking historically, is there?
well it just would of been quite some statement if you were, and i wanted to clarify
EverBlue86
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I wonder how many beds would be spare had unrestricted immigration been tackled over the years. People laugh but the services are being stretched to the limit. Housing, school places and hospital beds will be scarce in 20 years+ time and whilst it's not the only cause it's certainly not helping.
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