The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[Jxg]

My boy did, er, ok (well, not too good really as the voters seemed determined to vote mainstream AGAIN)

Mark Reckless (UKIP) 16,867 (42.10%)
Kelly Tolhurst (C) 13,947 (34.81%, -14.39%)
Naushabah Khan (Lab) 6,713 (16.76%, -11.70%)
Clive Gregory (Green) 1,692 (4.22%, +2.69%)
Geoff Juby (LD) 349 (0.87%, -15.39%)
Hairy Knorm Davidson (Loony) 151 (0.38%)
Stephen Goldsbrough (Ind) 69 (0.17%)
Nick Long (PBP) 69 (0.17%)
Jayda Fransen (Britain 1st) 56 (0.14%)
Mike Barker (Ind) 54 (0.13%)
Charlotte Rose (Ind) 43 (0.11%)
Dave Osborn (Pat Soc) 33 (0.08%)
Christopher Challis (Ind) 22 (0.05%)

You serious about this, son? The small amount of people who bother to show up tend to actually care about their vote.

Honestly can't see UKIP winning enough seats in 2015. People will start to engage their brains when it's a general election instead of just going for the protest vote.

"Oh don't worry about these council elections, they're just protest votes"

"Oh don't worry about these European elections, they're just protest votes"

"Oh don't worry about these by-elections, they're just protest votes"

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[davek]

I hope Farage invoices Labour for all the free publicity they give him

She (Thornberry) is a particular snide.

That said though, FFS, of all the stuff people should have to resign over taking the piss out of Ingerlund shouldnt be one of them...in fact, it should be mandatory.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30141159

Great rant by Dennis Skinner. It's just a pity the bulk of the parliamentary Labour Party aren't like him as they'd have put UKIP back in the sewer where they belong and retained their working class vote and identity.

It's a shame none of the parties seem to be rejecting the immigration line UKIP are pushing based upon the facts of the matter. Utterly baffling.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

She (Thornberry) is a particular snide.

That said though, FFS, of all the stuff people should have to resign over taking the piss out of Ingerlund shouldnt be one of them...in fact, it should be mandatory.

Not great to be taking the mick out of voters though is it? Even if it may be deserved, you shouldn't be doing that as a politician. People must think these things for a good reason, it'd be nice if there was more attempt to relay the true facts of immigration and the value immigrants bring to the country rather than silly messages belittling them as dumb little Englanders.

 

[red1]

"Oh don't worry about these council elections, they're just protest votes"

"Oh don't worry about these European elections, they're just protest votes"

"Oh don't worry about these by-elections, they're just protest votes"

Keep telling yourself that.

I find it hard to believe the UKIP by-election victories were necessarily about UKIP, people came out to support their MP that's the bottom line. It was a defection, it wasn't like UKIP fielded a brand new candidate who nobody in the local area has heard of, they would have lost without any doubt in my mind if that were the case. The guy was a former Tory and has probably served his community well so people supported him end of story. His name recognition was second to none in the local area but in the general election it's an entirely different ball game.

 

[L4Everton]

I find it hard to believe the UKIP by-election victories were necessarily about UKIP, people came out to support their MP that's the bottom line. It was a defection, it wasn't like UKIP fielded a brand new candidate who nobody in the local area has heard of, they would have lost without any doubt in my mind if that were the case. The guy was a former Tory and has probably served his community well so people supported him end of story. His name recognition was second to none in the local area but in the general election it's an entirely different ball game.

You can cut that a number of ways. If he had sold out his supporters then there was another Tory on the vote to have faith with.

The immigration issue is nonsense, booting out as many foreigners as the bumholes in every party are suggesting they would isn't going to achieve anything - it wont stop bankers thieving, it wont prop the nhs up, it wont build 150k homes, it wont improve infrastructure, it wont make every school an English speaking one, and it absolutely will not rescue the poor from poverty.

Blaming Johnny Foreigner is to buy into the controlling device the thick amongst society have been hoodwinked by. In a round about way the dyed in the wool rich and Tory fundamentalist that has resigned her seat on the Labour party was joking in the right area regards her white-van-man-Ingerlaand skit. Besides it being too close to the truth at party control level, it wasn't leading by example. Although if someone has video of Milly-Bland being the most angry he has ever been all is forgiven.

 

[davek]

Not great to be taking the mick out of voters though is it? Even if it may be deserved, you shouldn't be doing that as a politician. People must think these things for a good reason, it'd be nice if there was more attempt to relay the true facts of immigration and the value immigrants bring to the country rather than silly messages belittling them as dumb little Englanders.

No, that's right, you shouldn't.

A bit of political leadership is better, but all Labour have got for people like this now is to bend the knee to their prejudices (perceived or otherwise) rather than try and argue from a principled position that takes them head on. In it's place you get a resignation and more kowtowing from Labour to what they see are deserters to UKIP.

This Labour Party is finished, absolutely finished. The Scottish referendum hammered that home to anyone bothered to think about it.

 

[L4Everton]

This Labour Party is finished, absolutely finished. The Scottish referendum hammered that home to anyone bothered to think about it.

You are as bad as Chebsoazul for banging on about the Scots. In the words of the 'Frozen' song that is everywhere at the moment....Let it go, let it go...

 

[davek]

You are as bad as Chebsoazul for banging on about the Scots. In the words of the 'Frozen' song that is everywhere at the moment....Let it go, let it go...

That was a decisive moment in British politics. The moment Labour sided with the Tories and Lib Dems to smash the hope of millions looking for a better future. They'll pay a heavy price for that next May - it'll kill them in terms of any hope of being the largest party to form a coalition, never mind the majority party. And they'll need to swing back toward the left again if they want to stand any chance of recovering in Scotland again.

They basically made themselves unelectable as a party of government for the foreseeable future.

 

[Milk]

You serious about this, son? The small amount of people who bother to show up tend to actually care about their vote.



"Oh don't worry about these council elections, they're just protest votes"

"Oh don't worry about these European elections, they're just protest votes"

"Oh don't worry about these by-elections, they're just protest votes"

Keep telling yourself that.

Yes dad (although I suspect I am somewhat older than you).
I actually pay a sub to the OMRLP as it is my small protest against mainstream parties (although I have voted Plaid Cymru in the past) and I have the opportunity to input in to the OMRLP manifesto where every suggestion is given the weight it deserves.

 

[Coach]

Well worth a listen if you have 15 minutes to spare,

https://soundcloud.com/lsepodcasts/...3-the-welfare-myth-of-strivers-versus-skivers

 

[Brennan]

That was a decisive moment in British politics. The moment Labour sided with the Tories and Lib Dems to smash the hope of millions looking for a better future. They'll pay a heavy price for that next May - it'll kill them in terms of any hope of being the largest party to form a coalition, never mind the majority party. And they'll need to swing back toward the left again if they want to stand any chance of recovering in Scotland again.

They basically made themselves unelectable as a party of government for the foreseeable future.

If they wanted a better future they wouldn't have tried to vote for independence. Laughing that so many deluded people still think independence would have been super.

 

[davek]

If they wanted a better future they wouldn't have tried to vote for independence. Laughing that so many deluded people still think independence would have been super.

How d'you work that one out, sunbeam?

 

[Mrk]

No, that's right, you shouldn't.

A bit of political leadership is better, but all Labour have got for people like this now is to bend the knee to their prejudices (perceived or otherwise) rather than try and argue from a principled position that takes them head on. In it's place you get a resignation and more kowtowing from Labour to what they see are deserters to UKIP.

This Labour Party is finished, absolutely finished. The Scottish referendum hammered that home to anyone bothered to think about it.

I'm surprised just how much of a nothing party they've become. They don't represent the working man and woman, they don't represent the aspirational middle class, all they seem to represent is the guardian reading intelligentsia from London. Quite a shame really.

 

[chewee]

Clear right wing media bias in this country.

Last week Miliband was hammered for a supposed back bench rebellion after a game of chinese whispers. His position was called into question by several leading political editors. No firm source yet the media went to town on it.

Today we wake up to Cameron losing a second safe seat to a defected MP, his party is still openly divided over europe yet next to nothing. Sky go with 'Cameron vows to win back seat at election'. If the roles were reversed im almost certain the story would read 'Miliband at the point of no return as pressure mounts'.