The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

[tsubaki]

Difference is that you pay for Sky. If you don't like their content, you stop paying and if enough people do that, Sky change their political bias.

I have no problem with Sky. It's much more neutral than the BBC. They do tend to favour the party in power (currently Tory) but it's not unbearable.

Sky News is awful though. When that helicopter crashed around here last January they spent more than an hour speculating that the incident might be terrorist related, solely on the basis that it hit a crane that was near MI6. What al-Qaeda would gain by crashing into a crane next to MI6 in ridiculously thick fog was never explained, of course.

 

[davek]

where do all these scottish tory voters live lol

The borders mostly.

 

[davek]

He's a Nazi.

 

[EverBlue86]

This country will hit a boiling point, UKIP are rising in England and SNP in Scotland, the days of tories and labour having guaranteed votes in the bag are over imo.

 

[neil999]

This country will hit a boiling point, UKIP are rising in England and SNP in Scotland, the days of tories and labour having guaranteed votes in the bag are over imo.

i reckon its a blip..

im sure there are cases of minority parties like this doing well in the past

but you never know, things could be changing

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yeah its exactly the same....

Youtube is made up of people expressing opinions.

Mainstream TV channels should be reporting things impartially, especially the BBC. That Channel 4 are doing this doesn't surprise me (as they always pander to minorities) but I still don't think deliberately painting any mainstream political party in a bad light trying to sway votes is on.

And LOL if you're talking about Pat Condell. The truth hurts.

Wasn't Benefit Street on Channel 4 too? Lets face it, they're just the place to go to for lo-brow television. Either way though, what exactly is it you're expecting here? Do you think people will change their mind on politics because of something they watch on the telly?

That's crazy. You don't listen to Condell on YouTube in order to get your thoughts challenged, you watch him because he says exactly what you already think. It's like an intellectual comfort blanket.

You complain about television companies and programs being bias, but they know full well that people are broadly speaking entrenched in their points of view, so usually pit one off against the other in the hope of obtaining ratings. I mean do you think Benefit Street was designed to further understand the topic any more than this daft program about UKIP will be?

 

[toffee matt]

This country will hit a boiling point, UKIP are rising in England and SNP in Scotland, the days of tories and labour having guaranteed votes in the bag are over imo.

We're still not going to have anyone but a Tory or Labour Pm for a long time though.

It's just going to lead too more coalition's and potential gridlock like in some European countries

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We're still not going to have anyone but a Tory or Labour Pm for a long time though.

It's just going to lead too more coalition's and potential gridlock like in some European countries

I think it's something like 18 of the 25 democratic countries in the world have a coalition. It's pretty common elsewhere.

 

[EFCNIK]

Why cant they just make a party with UKIP's stance on immigration and Europe, the Conservatives stance on not demonising the rich for being rich and the general economy, and labours stance on helping the most needy in the country?

I don't even get politics and why they cant all just use common sense?

 

[roydo]

I think it's something like 18 of the 25 democratic countries in the world have a coalition. It's pretty common elsewhere.

There are only 25 democracies in the entire world???

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There are only 25 democracies in the entire world???

meant to add 'largest' in there but in amidst frantic editing it slipped out.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

List here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_coalition_governments

 

[Bruce Wayne]

The thing is, any coalition government is only really any good if the members of it can work together. If they can't stand each other, it kinda sucks. Given that most of the parties spend 4 of the 5 year election cycle sticking the knife into each other it's not exactly promising, is it?

 

[tsubaki]

This country will hit a boiling point, UKIP are rising in England and SNP in Scotland, the days of tories and labour having guaranteed votes in the bag are over imo.

The problem with both UKIP and the SNP though is that they are fundamentally coalitions brought about a single issue. If the UK leaves or substantially renegotiates via a referendum its relationship with Europe, the reasons for UKIPs existence will cease to exist; the same goes for the SNP in the case of Scottish independence. It should also be pointed out that both parties have somewhat unusual funding arrangements, and are far from being the grassroots movements that they claim to be (especially the SNP, who are funded by the odious Gloags).

The rise of UKIP and the SNP (and the Greens for that matter) will probably only have a beneficial effect in that they might help to finally push the main two parties off the positions of power they currently hold, and which they used to justify by the number of members that they or their associations had. Remove (or substantially weaken) central control from both main parties and British politics will probably end up better, and definately less corrupt than it is now.

 

[roydo]

lol meant to add 'largest' in there but in amidst frantic editing it slipped out.

Phew. Thought GOT had caused revolutions throughout the world.