The 2 years since Martinez left.

[DanEFC92]

 

[Famous_Seamus]

He inherited a solid team structure that Moyes left and added a top quality striker in Lukaku (something Moyes never had) with which he produced an excellent first season. Slowly that structure was chipped away and led to an absolute dreadful finish to his stint. Anyone now pining for those days must have been in coma for 2015-2016 and part of me would be jealous to not have to have witnessed that season, and I would say the same about this current one as well.

IMO everything that has transpired since 2013 has to be looked at with the Lukaku lens- he was absolutely immense for us and that has left a gaping hole in a our squad. It doesn't matter how much $$$ is thrown around, if your top goalscoring weapon is Jelavic/Anichebe (pre-Lukaku) or a 32 y/o Rooney (post Lukaku) you haven't got a prayer of competing for a CL spot.

 

[Goat]

Points gained in both 86/87 and 13/14 tell me we were a force in those seasons - THAT'S why it matters. And you know as well as I do that we have no chance of ever competing at that end of the table with elite club level points for the foreseeable future. It was a tremendous effort of 21 wins in 38 games, and we won get near that again anytime soon.

Just admit it: it was a season that had us playing, great winning football and puts that dirge of a fluked season 04/05 under Moyes in the shade.

Busted flush.

5th is better than 4th.

lollollollollol

 

[MACCA75]

When Moyes finished 4th we had just finished 17th and sold the best player of his generation.

When Martinez finished 5th we had just finished 6th, and literally been gift wrapped the best goalscorer we’d had in 30 years.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

When Moyes finished 4th we had just finished 17th and sold the best player of his generation.

When Martinez finished 5th we had just finished 6th, and literally been gift wrapped the best goalscorer we’d had in 30 years.

Close the thread as this ^ nails it.