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TalkSports' 30 biggest clubs in the UK

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These lists are silly because everyone uses different factors to judge how big a team is depending on the club they support.

For some total trophy count will be the sole defining reason, typically fans from historically big clubs like Everton etc will use this as the definition for bigness as it allows us into the conversation despite the fact we haven’t won anything for twenty odd years. The fact is though that there is an entire generation now who view us as complete no marks who are here just to make up the numbers... so long as never win anything in younger generations lifetimes we will continue to be viewed this way.

Youll then have other clubs who have no history of winning trophies who think they should be in there purely because they have fantastic attendance... see Newcastle. This is delusional.

Ultimately for me it has to be a combination of total trophies, recent history of success, current attendance and worldwide fanbase. With those things in mind I think we place about 7th.

There is no way in hell we’re bigger than Chelsea nowadays. They have been near top of English footy for the past ten or so years and have developed a significant worldwide fanbase.

City are a bit different. Historically they are not a big club, same goes for Chelsea but they are winning trophies now at a time when the sport and premier league is bigger than ever. They will grow massively as a club over the next decade or so and most likely end up on similar level to Chelsea in terms of popularity.

Spurs I kind of view the same as us, good history of winning trophies but not enough success in modern times. They do have a bigger fanbase though but that’s to be expected given the size of London. Sure they haven’t won the league as much as us but they’ve won lots of FA Cups back when that was considered a very big deal.

I think 6th/7th is fair enough.
 
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jaycee said:
Nowdays history doesnt hold much sway in club size,its all about Sky and ££££
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It’s all about recent history of winning trophies b2b worldwide fanbase and these are the two most logical ways to judge it imo.

Unfortunately these are the two areas we fail the most in relative to the clubs placed above us.
 
Layne said:
City and Chelsea are far bigger than us. Trophy count might be smaller but they're CL year in year out and we last won a trophy in '95. Spurs shouldn't be above us as they've done nothing of note recently besides choking on the title run in against Leicester.
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Where as all we have done for the last 22 years is choke at Wembley against Chelsea and the Vermin.
 
Imagine how many trophies we might have won if the CL rules were the same in the period 1955-1992 (or whenever CL football was invented to include teams that finished 3rd and 4th...)
 

jaycee said:
Even so Leeds would still be above Stoke in everything
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In the UK yes

Doubtful in terms of worldwide fanbase though. Don’t get me wrong... I’m not saying stoke have tons of fans around the world but you can’t underestimate just how big being in the premier league for the past ten years has been. It’s now the biggest sports league in the world by a huge distance. These past 10 years have been the biggest period of growth English football has seen and Leeds have completely missed out on it.

Stoke will have picked up a ton of fans around the world just from competing in it during this time.
 
ToffeeDan said:
Imagine how many trophies we might have won if the CL rules were the same in the period 1955-1992 (or whenever CL football was invented to include teams that finished 3rd and 4th...)
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I'm trying but just not seeing it. Something about us holding a CL trophy just feels wrong...
 
Had this argument on here a few times about the biggest club. It's a pointless argument because a clubs stature is in the eye of the beholder. For example it is an unquestionable fact that right now we are the fourth most successful club in English football and Aston Villa the fifth on terms of history and trophy amounts. However in terms of current stature and draw power we'd be lucky to make the top ten these days.

That list however is a total joke (which is no surprise as its form talksh##e). For example, i can understand why they'd have Chelsea and Man City higher up then us since they've been winning titles and cups in recent years but Spurs?! Remained me what they've won in that time?

Then they put Celtic 8th, a ludicrous decision because if we judge a club by titles then they'd be number one/two with Rangers (the league may be crap but that's beside the point). They shouldn't even be on this list as most prem clubs are a bigger draw then them these days purely based on money and apparently history doesnt matter. No Rangers till 17 on that list? If they're going to show Scottish football clubs on it then at least try to be consistent. I'm no Rangers fan but to say they aren't bigger then Newcastle and West Ham (two nothing clubs who are also apparently bigger then Villa FFS!) is hilarious!

Leeds United (a club I proper hate) is apparently lower then West Brom, Southampton and Stoke?! Just LOL at that B.S. there's also the likes of Sheffield Wednesday who are missing that are much bigger then Stoke and West Brom could ever hope to be on any level.

All in all an extremely flawed list to say the very least.
 
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