Summer transfer window.

[Gilbert..]

Can’t think k of many PEP and Wenger got wrong
Ferguson got a lot wrong but I’ve my own ideas on those transfers

Wenger signed thierry henry. He also signed franny jeffers.
Im not an Arsenal fan but i can think of a few. Arshavin was a flop. And we ended up with one. Richard wright.

 

[Little Ralphy]

Wenger signed thierry henry. He also signed franny jeffers.
Im not an Arsenal fan but i can think of a few. Arshavin was a flop. And we ended up with one. Richard wright.

Worth it for those four goals that one game.

 

[Gilbert..]

Worth it for those four goals that one game.

Just remembered another that we ended up with. Phillipe senderos.

 

[OneTrueLegend]

story says we are in "club to club talks" to sign Chilean winger osorio from Midtjylland for £17m, palace and bournmouth also interested

He'd explode like Ndiaye: Everton in club-to-club talks to sign £17m winger

Everton are targeting attacking additions in the summer transfer window.

www.footballfancast.com

Looks OK, an upgrade on McNeil anyway.

 

[Brisan123]

story says we are in "club to club talks" to sign Chilean winger osorio from Midtjylland for £17m, palace and bournmouth also interested

He'd explode like Ndiaye: Everton in club-to-club talks to sign £17m winger

Everton are targeting attacking additions in the summer transfer window.

www.footballfancast.com

Looks OK, an upgrade on McNeil anyway.

Looks pacy , can beat a man , can hit a ball , loves a long cross field pass scores and assists perfect
However young and no PL experience
Will sit on the bench with Dibling , Rohl and Aznou next season learning from 40 m Jarod Bowen

 

[Simon Buttle]

Looks pacy , can beat a man , can hit a ball , loves a long cross field pass scores and assists perfect
However young and no PL experience
Will sit on the bench with Dibling , Rohl and Aznou next season learning from 40 m Jarod Bowen

Id be surprised if we signed Bowen tbh. I read something the other day that was suggesting that that there is no real way of doing any kind of sensible deal for any PL club due to age/fee/contract and he might be better playing the talisman role to bring them back up.

 

[ElGato]

Can’t think k of many PEP and Wenger got wrong
Ferguson got a lot wrong but I’ve my own ideas on those transfers

There's loads under Pep lad

Kalvin Phillips
James Trafford
Savinho
Sergio Gomez
Nunes (until he became right back, weird)
Ben Mendy
Ferran Torres
Angelino
Pedro Porro

Could go on

And even more under Wenger. Lord he made some stinkers

People forget that transfers aren't an exact science. For most clubs, generally about 1 in 3 imports are a success. Cash-rich clubs establish better scouting networks, pay for the best recruitment teams, and spend more money on buying at the top of the market, but even for them the dud rate is about 50/50.

 

[Mr Happy]

There's loads under Pep lad

Kalvin Phillips
James Trafford
Savinho
Sergio Gomez
Nunes (until he became right back, weird)
Ben Mendy
Ferran Torres
Angelino
Pedro Porro

Could go on

And even more under Wenger. Lord he made some stinkers

People forget that transfers aren't an exact science. For most clubs, generally about 1 in 3 imports are a success. Cash-rich clubs establish better scouting networks, pay for the best recruitment teams, and spend more money on buying at the top of the market, but even for them the dud rate is about 50/50.

Pedro Porro ? When did Pep manage him ?

Trafford has 2 trophies in about 10 games for City. Hardly a flop.

Ferran Torres was a success. Was homesick.

 

[ElGato]

Pedro Porro ? When did Pep manage him ?

Trafford has 2 trophies in about 10 games for City. Hardly a flop.

Ferran Torres was a success. Was homesick.

Porro bought for £12m in 19/20 and then shipped off on loan to a few gaffs. If he was good they'd have kept him. Example of the gambles that are taken at those lower price points.
Torres was krud IMO, regardless of the reason (being homesick is a prime example of one of those indeterminables that can make what looks like a good transfer a bad one). Actually can't believe they sold him for 20m euro profit, proper had Barca there.
Trafford has played a few cup games and looked pretty shaky for my money, and will leave this summer. Few trophies doesn't mean that he's been good and imo trophies as a metric for success is lazy. Scott Carson is one of the most decorated GKs in prem history; also good?

 

[Mr Happy]

Porro bought for £12m in 19/20 and then shipped off on loan to a few gaffs. If he was good they'd have kept him. Example of the gambles that are taken at those lower price points.
Torres was krud IMO, regardless of the reason (being homesick is a prime example of one of those indeterminables that can make what looks like a good transfer a bad one). Actually can't believe they sold him for 20m euro profit, proper had Barca there.
Trafford has played a few cup games and looked pretty shaky for my money, and will leave this summer. Few trophies doesn't mean that he's been good and imo trophies as a metric for success is lazy. Scott Carson is one of the most decorated GKs in prem history; also good?

Well i never knew that about Porro. Good knowledge.

Re: Trafford the Carson comparison is way off. Trafford played in both finals. I think he's an decent young Keeper and too easy to call him a flop.

Torres - krud not heard that in years

 

[ElGato]

Well i never knew that about Porro. Good knowledge.

Re: Trafford the Carson comparison is way off. Trafford played in both finals. I think he's an decent young Keeper and too easy to call him a flop.

Torres - krud not heard that in years

Fair, he's not a flop per se. But for a GK bought for £27m to start, then to play one season of cup competitions and (probably) leave, is possibly not a successful transfer (although if they sell him for a profit you could argue it is on a purely player trading point). Sure he's won two trophies but this is City, everyone gets a medal every year eh. Funny that for City £27m is enough to throw away on a cup keeper for a year. For us we want 40 appearances and 20 goal contributions for that kind of money!

 

[Curtis]

I'm a little dubious regarding the ossorio stories if Moyes stays , I doubt we're going to sign a 23 year old player from the danish league for Moyes to neglect him all season, claiming he's not ready for the league yet but we did it this season with a couple players so who knows

 

[Lanolin]

Pedro Porro ? When did Pep manage him ?

Trafford has 2 trophies in about 10 games for City. Hardly a flop.

Ferran Torres was a success. Was homesick.

By that metric none of the top clubs can ever make a poor signing though, because as long as everyone else is good and they continue to be successful anyone who doesn't do very well individually can still be said to have played their part. All clubs make signings that don't work out, you just have to make it so that you don't make too many of them and they're not your biggest purchases.

 

[trueblue84]

There's loads under Pep lad

Kalvin Phillips
James Trafford
Savinho
Sergio Gomez
Nunes (until he became right back, weird)
Ben Mendy
Ferran Torres
Angelino
Pedro Porro

Could go on

And even more under Wenger. Lord he made some stinkers

People forget that transfers aren't an exact science. For most clubs, generally about 1 in 3 imports are a success. Cash-rich clubs establish better scouting networks, pay for the best recruitment teams, and spend more money on buying at the top of the market, but even for them the dud rate is about 50/50.

Nicklas Bendtner

 

[ElGato]

By that metric none of the top clubs can ever make a poor signing though, because as long as everyone else is good and they continue to be successful anyone who doesn't do very well individually can still be said to have played their part. All clubs make signings that don't work out, you just have to make it so that you don't make too many of them and they're not your biggest purchases.

Obviously the higher the market value the less chance of duds there are. At least in the £50m-£100m bracket, players are generally proven at a certain level. Weirdly at £100m and above the dud rate is maybe a little higher, mainly because the expectations are so great that if you are not world class every week then it's considered a waste of money.

At the lower end of the market, say around that £30m price point, the dud rate is actually pretty high. Many more risks around a player, many more questions about their ability to 'do in the prem', many more one season wonders, many more players with questionable attitude, many more gambles. If our biggest purchases continue to be in the £30m area, we need to accept that they won't all work out.