Cedric is pretty good, aye.
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Cedric is pretty good, aye.
ijjysmith
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How much dya reckon BT?
I'd wager at least £15m, purely cos it's S'ton. They bought him for £5m(ish) IIRC, and he still has three years left to run on his deal, plus he's their first-choice right-back.
Don't get me wrong @bluestevon - we should be aiming for better than Valencia.
My point is - as the poster is saying above - Europa League at least allows us to offer more game time to better players, but I'd rather we target players for the first XI than just getting a random player in as a squad player for the sake of a new signing. Valencia has done fine this season and he shouldn't be our first choice, but if there's a cheap deal to be done then it'd be sensible to keep him for that 'impact sub' role.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
There lies the problem mate, if we effectively keep Lukaku and it means we can not sign any other half competent striker due to that (because the general rule seems to be no one wants to be a squad player etc) then we will be left with the exact same situation all over again, Lukaku on form - we are fine, he has a bad day, needs subbing etc or god forbid an injury then we go from him to Valencia, DCl, Kone calibre in one step.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
My general thoughts on and squad player mate, should be the reaction you'd have if due to injury/suspension they had to start any period of games for the club, if the general reaction for would be hair pulling and panic, then they aren't good enough for a squad number (the caveat being if they are very young and developing players), but for anyone over the age of say 23 or so, they need to be able to contribute as a starter if needed.
An added thing we need to be wary off is stocking up on low quality to cover us for Europa games for next season etc, because the season after we may not even be in it and then we have a fair few players - likely on decent wages who we won't be playing at all - sound familiar?
I aslo have lots of doubts about the uidea of inferior players giving depth for Europa games, assuming we won't play them to rest starters in the league, when exactly will they be playing besides for in relatively meaningless games once qualification is sorted or games are well beying the opposition - in which case isn't playing an academy lad at that point just if not more useful?
Kenshin
Player Valuation: £40m
I don't get this idea even now. I have seen it a few times in here and i just don't agree with it at all. It is almost suggesting no striker worth signing would ever come here as long as Lukaku is here? That simply isn't true! Of course we can sign another striker. What about options? What about playing 2 at the same time? What about tactical changes, or earning a place in the team? We have never signed back up before because the club decided Kone was adequate in that role.
It is almost like saying this summer we will sell rom, sign a replacement and then no-one else because they don't want to be back up again. Look at Spurs, Jannsen was tipped to be a decent striker and he moved knowing he was 3rd choice there behind Son and Kane. Perez chose arsenal over us despite having Giroud and Sanchez in front of him. It is just incredible that people think that we can't sign a decent striker because we have one already.
But that's my point - we've seen this season that Valencia has had a real impact when coming on from the bench. At times we probably wanted him to start certain games that he didn't, purely because in hindsight it's clear that Koeman knows he is a player that can deliver in 20 minute spells against tired defences. Sometimes that experience and know-how gives a player like that the edge over an academy lad.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Totally agree, i find it weird that the same ones saying we won't be able to sign a decent back up to Rom, also say that should we sell Rom that we need to go and buy 2-3 quality strikers, are these quality strikers not gonna turn around and no, because as soon as we signed the first the exact same situation is present again - whose gonna sign to be a backup to this new player.
Also if Perez hadn't had Arsenal come in for him then he'd have signed for us, the lad who went to Saints similar if we'd come back in for him he'd have come - both of those are decent players - both used to playing in Europe etc and both would have came, so kind of defuses the argument no one would sign as second choice striker
Meh too many central players for me Pabs.
Tielemans - I'm gonna be honest - I'm not arsed about. He'd be wasted wide and I think Klaassen would definitely suit our style of play more.
Don't get me wrong like, I'd take Tielemans in a hearbeat, but if Ross did go then I'd be after a creative player capable of playing as part of that front three (Koeman said yesterday he wants a player to offer more threat from midfield, which leads me to believe Klaassen really is a priority target).
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Agree to disagree mate, IMO anyway he should not even be getting considered to come in, we won't have a limitless pot of money this summer - we have very urgent first team needs and a need for 'quality' competition in some positions, we start pissing 5m here and there up the wall we will be left short in a few areas at least
Kind of what I'm saying though.
I'd rather us sign 5 or 6 quality players capable of slotting straight into the starting XI, then spunk money on an equivalent of Valencia. In that situation, I'd rather us keep Valencia as the back up he currently is, and have current first-teamers like Kev, Jags etc. drop down to back-up as well with those new additions taking up the spots in the starting XI.
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