Summer Transfer Window 2017

[colin t]

Oh boy, this is gonna be a long ass summer

This could make us or break us this summer could.

 

[cromofo]

This could make us or break us this summer could.

Agreed.

Either we stay mediocre, or we make the leap into glory days.

 

[colin t]

Agreed.

Either we stay mediocre, or we make the leap into glory days.

It has gotta to be our time to shine now.

 

[toffeejack]

It looks as if we are moving quickly, certainly compared to last year which was a bit of a shambles. In many ways many people's judgements and hoped for Moshiri have been kicked down the road. The summer was disappointing but understandable. January was decent if unspectacular and enough to earn deprive till the summer. This is his moment though, to show us which direction the club intends to go in.

I should provide a caveat here that whichever way it is will be better than the previous regime. We will either resemble something akin to Spurs or anything close to Chelsea under early Roman. Lots are convinced we have Usmanov behind the scenes and lads like Van Dijk will come, others think it will be moderate steps. I do think though, no big recruitment this summer will be quite telling.

As for players I am excited. Koeman wants a high calibre of player and we have that mixed with Walsh's uncanny and unusual ability to spot a gem. You may also have Moshiri wanting a statement signing. When that is put through Everton's recruitment which barring a few mishaps is one of the best in the league is a solid place to start from. We just need more of it.

I would expect some unusual signings. We didn't go back to get Gabbiadini in January and I'm not sure we will recycle players. Walsh seems very keen on value (and I imagine has a pressure to raise funds with targeted assets) and will probably know if you wait 6 months, never mind a year that window for value may go. I think we will see lots of obscure names. It sounds a cliche but who had heard of Fuchs, Vardy, Gueye, Mahrez before he brought them in (or indeed lads like Wood and Knockaert who failed at Leicester but have been big successes elsewhere).

The dialectic will be very much 3 different sets of ideas. Koeman looking for experienced pro's in their prime, Walsh probably looking for younger talent or unearthed talent with the potential of Moshiri still after the statement signing. I think we will see a lot from Walsh, some from Koeman and we can only hope 1 or 2 from the Moshiri list (which probably alludes to my initial point as to the overall ambition).

I like the names linked. The Ajax lads and Klaasen in particular would be a very strong signing. Deodonker looks an efficient midfield player. Thielemans would be fantastic. Pickford is growing on me as a goalkeeper and slightly reminiscent of a young De Gea. Lets see, I do hope we move quickly though.

it's nice to dream, but i really don't see us making a massive statement signing ala city did with robinho, i can just see us buying a lot of players of that siggurdson, klassen ilk who are europa league standard on the cusp of champions league standard. All the teams in the prem these days are struggling to attract real top notch, they all have about one or two well renowned names and then they're just massively paying over the odds on others. I would like us to make statement signings in name only, i don't see what the RS do with e.g. spending £35m on carrol as a statement purely because of what they paid. That's how i feel with the van dijk links, he's fairly good like, but he's playing for soton, signing him £50m i still wouldn't see as a massive statement, just raise some eyebrows and clubs across europe wondering why we've spent so much on a defender from a nothing team haha

 

[toffeejack]

Rumours at our end are that Grayson wants to bring Browning back for another loan for a whole season. He is desperate to re-sign McGeady to who has been outstanding. One of the best players in the league.

On Browning - he did okay when he first joined. Still looked like he was playing catch up with fitness. Got injured, had to be thrown back in early due to other injuries and looked [Poor language removed]. He isn't a right back by the way, looks dreadful though, could be a decent centre back through IMO.

He needs a season loan. Not a season in the reserves or on the periphery at Everton hardly playing, then moving in January again and playing catch up with fitness again. He needs to go somewhere, probably back to North End, for a full pre-season and 40+ games. Only then will he progress.

Agreed on browning, i just don't think he's good enough to make it here myself, he seems steady enough, but possibly not prem quality, you just get that inkling with some young players.

 

[MasonLeeEFC]

Looks a good player, but not a replacement for Lukaku, Sandro is 5"9", fast, likes to come deep or go wide, bring the midfielders into the play or on the shoulder of the last defender, hitting teams on the break. More of a "Jamie Vardy" than Lukaku type player. That might be how we play next year, or we may just need this guy, plus one or two more, different type forwards

Most of the things Lukaku doesn't do for the team?! He may well not be a replacement but he could well be a useful addition. He's got a good turn of pace, good technique and link up play and we lack that in the final third, someone that can bring other, more gifted player into the game in the right areas in the final third....

 

[MasonLeeEFC]

Koeman and Walsh in Malaga looking at a player. Watch Arsenal or somebody else sign him.

Not sure about Arsenal but Spurs were and could be keen still?!.....

 

[pnefccha]

By the way guys Pickford would be a class signing for you.

We had him on loan for 5 months immediately after promotion to the Championship and whilst the rest of the team was finding its feet at the level, he pretty much single-handedly kept us out of the bottom three.

His kicks are huge and sometimes a dangerous attacking weapon, his reflexes are outstanding, he is commanding from corners, I could go on and on and on.

There is something about his character though as well as those attributes. He is like a street footballer. I remember James Vaughan for Birmingham standing in front of him consistently during a game once, and Pickford decided slyly to carry through and give him a kick up the arse. He seems hard as f... and a good guy to have on your side.

Obviously he has gone on to perform at Premier League level too. Getting him, who is IMHO a future England no.1, for £17m, would be great business.

 

[MasonLeeEFC]

I don't mind us going for a one-dimensional focal point like Benteke or Dost. We've never really had that since Dunc and it allows the wide forwards the chance to run off them. Dolberg - for example - is a target man but doesn't come close to them types in the air or dominating a centre half. Problem we have now is our wide forwards never gamble and run ahead of Lukaku because frankly he's piss poor aerially for his size.

Think Dolberg is underestimated when it comes to his strength and his dominance of CB's. He's only 19 but he's quite a big lad and he great at getting his body between man and ball and protecting the ball and that's what you need from your CF. Lukaku more often than not has not interest in getting Infront of his man or dropping short to,take the ball and play others into play.

And I get the point about our other attacking players not making runs beyond him when the ball goes long cos they might feel he won't win it but our attacking players don't have enough intent to go beyond him and get in the box anyway and we need to find players that will and give us more of a goal threat.

But wether we lose Lukaku or not this summer, we need to find a CF that can Hold up the ball and link the play. For me it's an important part of a strikers game and just as important as them being able to score! If you have a CF that can do those things and bring players into play in the right areas going forward then you have a more functional team and I'm certain a more effective team also. Look at Southampton when they had Pelle through the middle and the likes of Mane, Tadic & Long either side. It worked and it was effective. Spurs are the same with Kane. Him, Alli, Eriksen & Son have around 70 or so goals between them this season!

I do honestly believe that due to Lukaku's flaws in his technical ability and hold up play, it is a factor in how bad we can be in the final third. There is other problems but that is a big issue.

 

[MasonLeeEFC]

Kristof is normally reliable regarding the Belgians. Is Dendonkor a box to box midfielder or another DM? I thought it was Tielemans we were looking at.

Dendoncker is more an holding midfielder and he's decent tbf but is that the type of midfielder we need anymore? Maybe Koeman is thinking of getting rid of McCarthy and isn't sure if Besic will get back fit so could see Dendoncker as a good squad players right now?

I do wonder if some rumours of late are a load of tosh, most are but especially when were linked to 19, 20, 21 year olds?! Koeman said he wanted players in their prime, players aged between 26-30! I know we will look at younger players and look keen on Sandro who is 21 and will be 22 in September but most players we do get linked to are youngsters really....

 

[MasonLeeEFC]

...Sandro Ramirez links gathering pace following RKs visit to watch the player;

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/everton-looking-to-land-malaga-striker-sandro-ramirez

Di Marzio is in on it now so he'll probs end up elsewhere now! Haha mate, I wouldn't quote him or put up links from him anymore dos he talks utter tripe!

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

It looks as if we are moving quickly, certainly compared to last year which was a bit of a shambles. In many ways many people's judgements and hoped for Moshiri have been kicked down the road. The summer was disappointing but understandable. January was decent if unspectacular and enough to earn deprive till the summer. This is his moment though, to show us which direction the club intends to go in.

I should provide a caveat here that whichever way it is will be better than the previous regime. We will either resemble something akin to Spurs or anything close to Chelsea under early Roman. Lots are convinced we have Usmanov behind the scenes and lads like Van Dijk will come, others think it will be moderate steps. I do think though, no big recruitment this summer will be quite telling.

As for players I am excited. Koeman wants a high calibre of player and we have that mixed with Walsh's uncanny and unusual ability to spot a gem. You may also have Moshiri wanting a statement signing. When that is put through Everton's recruitment which barring a few mishaps is one of the best in the league is a solid place to start from. We just need more of it.

I would expect some unusual signings. We didn't go back to get Gabbiadini in January and I'm not sure we will recycle players. Walsh seems very keen on value (and I imagine has a pressure to raise funds with targeted assets) and will probably know if you wait 6 months, never mind a year that window for value may go. I think we will see lots of obscure names. It sounds a cliche but who had heard of Fuchs, Vardy, Gueye, Mahrez before he brought them in (or indeed lads like Wood and Knockaert who failed at Leicester but have been big successes elsewhere).

The dialectic will be very much 3 different sets of ideas. Koeman looking for experienced pro's in their prime, Walsh probably looking for younger talent or unearthed talent with the potential of Moshiri still after the statement signing. I think we will see a lot from Walsh, some from Koeman and we can only hope 1 or 2 from the Moshiri list (which probably alludes to my initial point as to the overall ambition).

I like the names linked. The Ajax lads and Klaasen in particular would be a very strong signing. Deodonker looks an efficient midfield player. Thielemans would be fantastic. Pickford is growing on me as a goalkeeper and slightly reminiscent of a young De Gea. Lets see, I do hope we move quickly though.

Agree with what you say, but Rooney seems very much a certainty and that makes me worry. Walsh couldn't look at him statistically and see a top player. Koeman shouldnt look at his performances this year and conclude he's the man to kick us on. Moshiri definitely shouldn't be looking at him signing and thinking the world will sit up and take note of us.

I will start to get a bit edgy if Rooney is the first one through the door rather than the likes that you listed, who would be much better options. Would reek of sentimentality and being out of touch is we do go the Rooney route.

 

[MasonLeeEFC]

it's nice to dream, but i really don't see us making a massive statement signing ala city did with robinho, i can just see us buying a lot of players of that siggurdson, klassen ilk who are europa league standard on the cusp of champions league standard. All the teams in the prem these days are struggling to attract real top notch, they all have about one or two well renowned names and then they're just massively paying over the odds on others. I would like us to make statement signings in name only, i don't see what the RS do with e.g. spending £35m on carrol as a statement purely because of what they paid. That's how i feel with the van dijk links, he's fairly good like, but he's playing for soton, signing him £50m i still wouldn't see as a massive statement, just raise some eyebrows and clubs across europe wondering why we've spent so much on a defender from a nothing team haha

Yeah I'm not so sure about wether we will make that real statement of intent kind of signing but I do think we'll spend well this summer and make 2-3 hefty investments. Think we'll definitely break our transfer record! But I don't think it's a bad thing buying players like Sigurdsson or Klaassen. Their good players and would improve us and if we can get a few of them in and get the right blend aswell then it could work out for us.

Look at Spurs and some of their signings, Alderweireld who couldn't get a kick at Atl. Madrid and was loaned to Southampton, played well and got his move to Spurs and was nowhere near being CL level. Vertonghen was good at Ajax and a Europa league level player that's got better. Alli as come from nowhere and is a player, same with Kane. Wanyama for Southampton, who would of thought he'd be one of best DM in our league and possibly Europe?! Dembele from Fulham, absolute class. Eriksen another. They've practically gone and bought talents or good players from decent clubs that some of the big boys didn't think we're quite good enough for them and built an outstanding side.

Hopefully Koeman can go and do the same thing and put some talent together and build us a good side....

 

[catcherintherye]

Agree with what you say, but Rooney seems very much a certainty and that makes me worry. Walsh couldn't look at him statistically and see a top player. Koeman shouldnt look at his performances this year and conclude he's the man to kick us on. Moshiri definitely shouldn't be looking at him signing and thinking the world will sit up and take note of us.

I will start to get a bit edgy if Rooney is the first one through the door rather than the likes that you listed, who would be much better options. Would reek of sentimentality and being out of touch is we do go the Rooney route.

Yes I mean if we use Rooney as our marquee signing there will be major alarm bells ringing. I have no problem with Rooney coming back, but it needs to be as well as not in spite of other players.

 

[spudmuncher]

Looks like keane is on his way to the dark side