Summer Challenges

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Excellent article. I think still more patience is needed, certainly up to the end of June, whilst knowing that for myself and others it isn't something in endless supply when it comes to transfers.

We have to go on the confident assumption that funds are in place, not to compete with the elite but to do sufficiently well in pushing us forward and attracting players of a decent enough calibre.

It's also fair to assume that whatever teething problems were there last summer have been ironed out and that roles have been clarified.

So, I like most of us are expecting a pretty decent window, certainly amongst the best in recent history if not the most significant and successful since the inception of the PL.

I don't think we aimed too high last summer, if the money is there then the worst that can happen is that a player/club says no. The fault lay in not recognising early enough when there was no realistic prospect of a successful bid, and having no credible backup.What then transpired was the rather unseemly sequence of events of deadline day, scrambling to sign Valencia, and luckily being rejected by Sissoko.

Clearly we have a wish-list of players, and they may have to go down a rung or two on that list to get a signing that IMPROVES the squad. In our position we are especially looking for the sum of the parts to be greater than the individuals. And we badly need some on-field passion and leadership. In some cases we may not get the best quality, most technically adept player but one who has fire and guts, and that will do for for one or two signings. Certainly not all, but the mix needs to be right.

If we are disappointed on Sept. 1, then it will be a huge let-down. I don't know where we go after that, as it would seem to offer confirmation that not much is going to change at least on the recruitment side.

But let's give them a chance to deliver without rushing to conclusions. As much as I would prefer if Kenwright and Elstone had no involvement, I don't think its credible to believe that they are actively looking to mess things up and/or put obstacles in the way, either though pride, obstinance, or downright incompetency, with Moshiri complicit in letting them do so. Surely the opposite is the case, and they both want to ride on the coattails of any success. It's Walsh's role that is key. If we don't succeed then he is in the firing line for what would follow.

Thanks for the reply Bri. I think this summer is very important for Moshiri. Koeman thus fair has made it clear that he will stay for 3 years. You imagine this time next year he will either want to be in the Champions League or have a squad ready to challenge to be in it. If he doesn't I expect him to go next summer (unless he changes his habits of a lifetime and commits to a long term project).

I worry about the lack of urgency. City, West Ham and now seemingly Liverpool are adding targets. Some of them are lads we've been heavily linked with. It's not so much the "they are signing people why aren't we" but what does it say for our strategy broadly? If Koeman made VVD his number 1 choice and we are not even in the conversation?

I agree with you whole heartedly that Kenwright and Elstone are not looking to actively mess things up. Kenwright loves the club and Elstone wants to do a good job. What worries me though is their competence to do what Moshiri is asking them. People get institutionalised in any business and I think it's fair to say both are competent at running an organisation that treats water. Thats very different from being able to aggressively grow a business with funding. Maybe they can make the change but I've seen little to suggest it thus far.

VVD was always going to be a very hard sell. That is the level the manager and owner want to attract so it's worth mentioning yet we seem to struggling to close deals in Pickford and Sigordson. That has to be a worry as in both cases both players seem very closable.

Lets see how the window pans out. I am commenting very much on a work in progress. Maybe we deliver all of the players we need for a first game in late July. However this feels very much like Everton of the last 15 years. That could be because Moshiri wants to run it that way, or alternatively because some of the same key people of that time have remained.
 
The article matches my mood exactly and i share your fears and frustrations. Whilst the thought of a "marquee" signing seems very attractive its clear that without champions league football most of us will need to re-evaluate the criteria that actually makes up such a signing.

I ant help feeling that the potential loss of Barkley is the cause of most of the "overcast" we feel. No disrespect to Gylfi Sigurðsson but i don't want him to replace Barkley I want him in addition to Barkley. I'd be very happy with modest player improvement in our player recruitment if it meant that we created a wage structure that allowed us to retain our best assets (even if they haven't always show their true potential). I fully expect to lose big Rom and if we can achieve anything close to £100m then so be it. We should though expect to pay £50m for the likes of Vardy, who is an achivable target but I doubt our stomach to pay that level of fee.

Next year they say we start to build the new stadium. At the age of 54 now I hope is that we will have the team to match that dream. That means keeping Davies and company. Im keen to see Unsworths young lads get more opportunities , graduate into Premiership players and be retained.

Thanks for the reply mate. I see VVD now in a tug of war between Liverpool and City (with Chelsea trying too) and you can see we are not in the picture. I don't think that can really be held at the doorstep of the board as it would be very difficult to attract such a player. However people on the board have fed information to local and national media that "nothing would be the same again" so to speak and we can sign who we like. I just don't think thats true. Koeman wants VVD and we are not in the conversation to make it happen.

We all make predictions, and I am only doing so with a small bit of information (when this article was written last week was even less so, it was before the VVD stuff moved forward). At an early glance though I am not sure this summer will be all we thought it would and what local journalists have led us to believe.
 
Very good article. I only have a comment on this part though.



The assumption being that other clubs aren't doing their own homework? I'd say you're right about us not getting deals done fast enough but I don't think we're the benchmark for a signing. Of course, the obvious counter to quicker signings is Sissoko! :oops:



This is also a concern of mine. A 'short term' Manager will source the players he needs for short term success, not build a dynasty.

Thanks mate. This is no doubt that other clubs do their own homework too. However we have a very good reputation of finding value in the market and since acquiring Walsh this will be more so. If we express an interest in a player I suspect other clubs will advise scouts to have a look. The Belgium winger Arsenal are close to moving on, or Perez I feel they only moved for on the back of us putting in a firm bid or during up our interest. You'd be amazed at how much copy cat stuff you get in top level football.

Sissoko has been a flop at Spurs, as has Perez. It's odd though, I think a lot of this has been down to the fact they haven't quite been good enough or fit their system. Oddly both I think were signed above on the basis that we firmed up out interest. Scissors' feel in particular was driven up by it being transfer deadline day. Strange though it sounds, if either were available at a knockdown price I'd be tempted to have a look. There's a player in there with Sissoko but would need the right manager to trust him.

As for Koeman I agree wholeheartedly. This project only really makes sense to me if he's in it for the slightly longer haul than 2-3 years. I don't see us being a champions league regular by the end of his tenure. I can see us though, with Walsh, Unsworth and the continued good work at youth level with a manager who develops players like Koeman over a 5 year period developing a very competitive team akin to Spurs if we can hold onto players.
 
I think some of the bullish talk of last summer is what's causing a bit of discontent.

The talk of warchests, of being able to compete with anybody, of statement signings, exciting projects and £60m bids was exactly what we all wanted to hear, but the reality has been totally different. I'm not knocking Moshiri here, but the truth is that if this was a really exciting project there's not a chance in hell that Stones, Lukaku and Barkley would have been looking to move on within 12 months, or that our biggest signing would be an unwanted United player (no disrespect to Schneiderlin, who I'm a big fan of).

That means we need to reassess what we see as a 'statement' signing, and that inevitably means fans become a little disappointed in the short term. There's no doubt that after the talk of Mata, Witsel and Koulibaly, the players we're currently being linked to are a bit of an anti-climax. What we need to ensure is that it's only a short term thing. We need to make sure that we secure the signings of good players who will make us better, and put us in a position where we can kick on and get the type of players we really want. There's no excuses this summer - the manager, board and director of football all need to deliver.
 
Thanks mate. This is no doubt that other clubs do their own homework too. However we have a very good reputation of finding value in the market and since acquiring Walsh this will be more so. If we express an interest in a player I suspect other clubs will advise scouts to have a look. The Belgium winger Arsenal are close to moving on, or Perez I feel they only moved for on the back of us putting in a firm bid or during up our interest. You'd be amazed at how much copy cat stuff you get in top level football.

Sissoko has been a flop at Spurs, as has Perez. It's odd though, I think a lot of this has been down to the fact they haven't quite been good enough or fit their system. Oddly both I think were signed above on the basis that we firmed up out interest. Scissors' feel in particular was driven up by it being transfer deadline day. Strange though it sounds, if either were available at a knockdown price I'd be tempted to have a look. There's a player in there with Sissoko but would need the right manager to trust him.

As for Koeman I agree wholeheartedly. This project only really makes sense to me if he's in it for the slightly longer haul than 2-3 years. I don't see us being a champions league regular by the end of his tenure. I can see us though, with Walsh, Unsworth and the continued good work at youth level with a manager who develops players like Koeman over a 5 year period developing a very competitive team akin to Spurs if we can hold onto players.
All good points, thank you. I naturally defer to those of you who are, at least, within the same time zone! lol

It's good to get the perspective of others. Could it be the system that makes all the difference in a 30 mill player being a success or flop? I think you're right.

PS. Scissors...lol lollol
 
Thanks for the reply Bri. I think this summer is very important for Moshiri. Koeman thus fair has made it clear that he will stay for 3 years. You imagine this time next year he will either want to be in the Champions League or have a squad ready to challenge to be in it. If he doesn't I expect him to go next summer (unless he changes his habits of a lifetime and commits to a long term project).

I worry about the lack of urgency. City, West Ham and now seemingly Liverpool are adding targets. Some of them are lads we've been heavily linked with. It's not so much the "they are signing people why aren't we" but what does it say for our strategy broadly? If Koeman made VVD his number 1 choice and we are not even in the conversation?

I agree with you whole heartedly that Kenwright and Elstone are not looking to actively mess things up. Kenwright loves the club and Elstone wants to do a good job. What worries me though is their competence to do what Moshiri is asking them. People get institutionalised in any business and I think it's fair to say both are competent at running an organisation that treats water. Thats very different from being able to aggressively grow a business with funding. Maybe they can make the change but I've seen little to suggest it thus far.

VVD was always going to be a very hard sell. That is the level the manager and owner want to attract so it's worth mentioning yet we seem to struggling to close deals in Pickford and Sigordson. That has to be a worry as in both cases both players seem very closable.

Lets see how the window pans out. I am commenting very much on a work in progress. Maybe we deliver all of the players we need for a first game in late July. However this feels very much like Everton of the last 15 years. That could be because Moshiri wants to run it that way, or alternatively because some of the same key people of that time have remained.
I do enjoy reading your articles mate and I know we are of a like mind as I tend to agree with most everything you write. You can see a lot of thought and consideration has gone into this one too.

Like it or not, Everton are currently in a league of our own. Literally. We are not considered one of the elite six, but we are considered a step above the rest of the Premier League. We are also recognised as a club that, on the back of the introduction of a new majority shareholder, have genuine ambitions to join that elite group.

However, our current status does cause problems for us in acquiring the quality of player that is going to significantly improve our ability to genuinely challenge those elite teams on the pitch. You only have to look at some of the players we have been associated with leading upto the summer to see the challenge we are faced with. Arsenal have today confirmed they are to sign Kolasinac from Schalke. VVD is being fought over by City and Liverpool. Sandro looks like he's going to Atletico even though he can't play for them until January. Keane is being linked with United. Tielemans is on his way to Monaco. As soon as we are linked to anybody, one of the elite teams, either here or on the continent, are subsequently linked. It's going to be incredibly difficult to attract this type of player ahead of the competition.

Not only this but we also find it very difficult to hold onto our best players. Stones went last year, Lukaku is 99.999% going this summer and Barkley looks like he'll be sold too if he doesn't sign a new contract. Selling our best players isn't exactly going to help in our ambitions to bring in new elite players either.

On the positive side, at least we are now being linked with some of these elite players in the press. Two seasons ago that would have been inconceivable. But when we are in competition for those players with clubs with a higher profile than us and, in fairness, with more financial clout than us, we have to be realistic. I'm not saying we shouldn't go after these players, but we do have to be careful we don't become a laughing stock in the process.

For me, we should be concentrating our searches in the following areas.

1) Top players who are not getting a regular game at their current clubs, either here in the Premiership or on the continent. Schneids being a perfect example of what can be done. There are plenty of players not happy with their current game time who would improve our current squad.

2) Finding the next "Lukaku". Young players who are still developing, either in lower leagues in the UK, sub standard leagues abroad, or in development squads at elite clubs with no prospects of first team football. I could probable name 20 players that fall into this category that I wouldn't mind us taking a punt on.

3) I'll call this group "Walshies gems" for want of a better description. Basically players under the radar like Gana.

4) Top drawer youth players to bring into the academy. Players like Stones, Holgate etc.

Even for this to work, we need a complete overhaul of how we conduct transfers, and that may have to include the personnel involved. For years we have been working on a shoestring and have had to ensure we get value for money. That culture HAS to change. No more going in with bargain basement offers. No more penny pinching in contract negotiations. Every, and I do mean every, player we have bought or been linked with over the last few years has been subject to protracted negotiations. Had anybody else come in for Schneids in January we would probably have lost him too. We need to act quick and get the player signed up before word gets out and we get gazumped (just to link back in your house buying analogy).

The other thing I'd say is that we will need to be a bit more patient. Talk of getting champions league next season is wide of the mark in my opinion. We are way off that level at the moment, and if we do lose both of Barkley and Lukaku this summer, it will make our task that much harder. Plus we will need to give the new younger players time to develop. Plus of course, you can expect all the teams above us to improve their playing squads too.

We do have some really good players coming though our academy and, with the right acquisitions over the next year or so, I do believe we can emulate Spurs and join that elite group within the next 3 years.
 
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Summer Challenges
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The Problems We Face

We are 2 weeks into a transfer window and already you can feel a sense of restlessness creeping into supporters. On the one hand it feels ridiculous that 4 weeks before a transfer window opens we should start to become frustrated, yet at times it’s hard not to become carried along with that feeling. When you see clubs like West Ham being linked with players you would like us to sign (Iheanacho) it creates a sense of panic that I can only liken to trying to buy a house, fearful that unless you ring the agent back that hour some more undeserving family will get the gem before you. In a world of twitter and social media, with other clubs ITK’s (In The Knows) proclaiming deals are about to happen well before they are this sense of anger can spiral. Within such a context it is notably difficult to remain analytical and objective in what you want from a transfer window and how you think it is progressing.

For Everton fans of a particular age this sense is heightened. The phrase standing on the shoulder of giants is a very pertinent one yet what Evertonian’s would need is an opposite to this. Years of being let down in the window have led to a cynicism around the transfer window, whether it was Ravanelli, the Alan Smith bid, Rooney and Arteta leaving on the final day of the window with no money being spent or last years mad dash with no incomings we have had our share of evidence to compound this.

The globalized entity that is the Premier League is akin to free trade/globilisation with wider society and has for the most part been a wonderful thing yet as the Brexit vote shows the fruits of success are unevenly distributed. We resemble a left behind area that begrudgingly sees the fruits of said globilisation within football as an inherently problematic thing. The richer clubs hoover up your talent. That was what transfer windows came to represent-a constant reminder you couldn’t hang onto players. Whats important to note is this hasn’t always been Everton’s position and we certainly hope it won’t be Everton’s position going forward yet this summer fans will be after concrete evidence those days are long behind us. Not asking for much hey Farhad!?



For many reasons it feels this summer will be a significant one for Moshiri. On the whole Evertonian’s are a critical and cynical bunch yet there is a curious patience that comes alongside this-think Benjamin in Animal Farm. The summer window was bordering on shambolic, with big promises made and very little delivered. Yet there were concrete reasons for this- most notably being late in acquiring the right manager and Director of Football would have led to a rushed approach to recruitment and a power vacuum. In lieu of this vacuum it felt figures who I simply don’t believe are up to the brief filled the void and unsurprisingly we repeated similar mistakes to other window. Leaving bids too late, bidding under the asking price and not finalizing deals effectively.

What worries me more than anything is their presence remains. That this approach was not a short term reflection of necessity as opposed to a strategic vision of how the club moves forward in the medium term. There will be many who on seeing similar mistakes being repeated, while particular figures remain on the board and draw the logical conclusion that their continued involvement is holding us back. Such a perception could potentially damage the extended honeymoon and positivity Moshiri receives from the Everton fanbase.

When we consider Moshiri there is little doubt he wants to make a statement though I feel the difficulty in doing so and what this statement may therefore look like are underestimated. An obvious example may be Virgil Van Dijk, a signing that would unify all behind the new majority shareholder and radically alter how we are perceived wider in football. Consider that Manchester City are offering him an alleged 180k per week. To get him to reject Champions League football how much would we have to offer him? 250k per week? Can we do that? Would we want to do that? What further impact could it have on the squad generally? It’s not an unrealistic statement to say currently the leagues top players seem out of our league, even with the additional finances if the numbers widely reported have any truth (though I’d be delighted to be proven wrong and see VVD in a blue shirt!).



We are then left at trying to attract either a lower caliber or younger profile of player as a statement. Lads like Pickford or Sigurdsson for example. Sunderland and Swansea value their star players at 30 million and 45 million respectively (Sigurdsson’s wage demands are allegedly 140k per week). It may be a statement to spend these sort of sums and have the deals wrapped up early though I can’t help but feel there would be a concern amongst the fanbase if we did this. Would all feel a bit Kenny Dalglish when he lashed 40 million on Andy Carroll and 20 million on Stewart Downing?




The mediated response to this is that it’s where Steve Walsh comes in. Being able to find value for less. Yet a lot of his buys are not going to wow Evertonians. Idrissa Gueye didn’t wow Evertonians (myself included) when we signed him yet he’s our best signing in 2 years. The other difficulty presented (as frankly I do wonder how far making a statement is a worthwhile aspiration) is that just as it was under Moyes you get a sense other clubs are watching our transfer business and swooping to concluding deals more quickly than us. We saw this with Perez and Arsenal who are now looking to move on a Belgium teenager we have identified. West Ham appear to have upped their intentions on signing Pickford. You do feel Everton need to move quickly to get transfers in the bag or risk others gazumping us.

If there is something of a difference in perspectives and strategy between Moshiri and Walsh you can’t help but feel throwing an opinionated manager like Koeman into the mix only causes further challenges. If Moshiri has been keen to get a signing that cements his and more importantly Everton’s standing, while Walsh is keen to strive for value, Koeman seems very clear he wants to have proven players who are in their prime years (26-29). The difficulty is often these players cost a fair amount of money and the ones who improve our team are unavailable to us.



What worries me presently is that we are turning over huge number of professionals and we replace them with other lads who need time to bed in and when they don’t are turfed off quickly. There were many faults of the Moyes/Kenwright regime but one success was the time players who had been too hastily caste off at other clubs were given to rebuild a career. Another concern is that we currently have too many people with differing ideas and philosophies of what we are trying to do to be successful.



It’s my own hypothesis that however well Koeman does with us he will likely move on and we will need to find a manager who is happier to work within our structure more easily. This is not to say we should proactively remove Koeman, or he’s done a bad job (he’s done a very good job and has injected a ruthlessness that has been sorely missing) yet within industry it’s well known you have different managers for different tasks. It feels like Koeman’s was to root out the bad eggs, improve fitness and get us on a footing to succeed. At present he hasn’t expressed much interest in wanting to share in the fruits of this labour longer term though with much talk of players within 27-29 bracket required. Yet the contradiction is, currently we will struggle to attract those of sufficient quality within that bracket.

If we repeat the debacle of last summer though I can say with reasonable confidence it will be Koeman’s last season with us. How this circle if squared, between a manager who wants proven players of a top 4 standard and a board who at present hasn’t shown either the capability, desire or willingness to deliver this will surely underpin this summer.



The bizarre thing is, in amongst a very vulgar picture I’ve painted I would like to see nothing more than Koeman commit to a long term project here. To sign a 5 year deal and be given the player he wants. To acknowledge he has to develop younger players as part of that. While he seems reluctant to do this, he remains very good at it. Davies has flourished into probably the most talented teenager in the country under his guidance and Lukaku has stepped up a level. The introduction of Calvert-Lewin, Lookman and improvement of Holgate has been very impressive. What is striking with Koeman though is it appears almost as a labored afterthought he considers this remarkable flourishing of young players as opposed to an achievement that he and the club should make central going forward. For the above 4 names mentioned there, we should be looking to add Kenny, Walsh and Dowell next season. While he may not relish in this you can think of few managers they would benefit more under than Koeman

I have little doubt a signing or two will radially change the tone and outlook I have forecast. Football fans, myself included are notoriously fickle creatures. The boredom that comes from no football is quickly passed on to a frustration at lack of business. Rather than a fixation on making a statement the best way forward for Everton may be a window that shows a unification of ideas between Manager, Board and Director of Football into a strategy that can allow for the continuation of last seasons progress.
Enjoyed reading your thoughts mate, I think it might well be a difficult summer trying to attract the players the manager would like, but I don't think that the ITKs and the press know who our targets really are. The club have always been very good at not leaking info regarding players we would like, so I hope and indeed expect, that there may be one or two unexpected very decent arrivals. I am hopeful that by the end of June we will have a reasonable idea of our team for next season.
 
Another excellent piece Catcher.

I think you and Barnfred hit the nail on the head.. we are an in between club since the takeover. Aspiring for top 4 without the draw capacity to pull players already at that level. Thanks to players that grew with the club and an astute manager we are well above the rest.

Last summer was an embarrassment and I lost my rag completely over it on these and TW pages. I still can't understand how RK bought in so much creative talent to the Saints but all we could muster was Valencia.. I digress.

We played up the big names giving us what we honestly almost expected with Mosh Billions only to try buy strikers that have rubbish records on any stats site. Perez and Gabi both rubbish stats over an extended period. What were we doing? There was and we are afraid still have no clear direction on what we are trying to achieve in terms of player purchasing.

Barnfred I think your list of 4 types is pragmatic and doable and will improve the team until such time we can earn the right to go for a ready made CL player.

We have to .. have to.. go for players that will move straight into the starting 11. Quality over quantity has never been more important. Even if it is only 3 players with an accumulated spend of £100m BEFORE selling Lukaku and Barkley that would close the gap massively.

I think Morgan was a brilliant buy although easy for RK given he had history. But it should provide a good template for what we can do. Who else is on the fence with a change of manager? Not just our league, the top 5 leagues.

I have been promoting the youth galactico theory for probably 12 years. Arsenal have been doing it for ages! I want us to buy the next Ronaldo. I see we are doing a lot more in this area with Lookman at £11m a clear example of pushing out the envelope on talented youth. It does seem harder now as the European masters seem to hoover up many of the best talent with only the uber rich and successful able to take them off them. But they are out there and the one I want is Dembele from Celtic. A sucker for youth I would love to see us take a huge punt on a top rated young player.

Sorry this became a little lengthy and unorganized touching amateur FM.

100%. If we don't pull off the summer transfers our new ownership has promised, time for a clear out at a board level. Last chance from me.
 
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