Stadium Thread - ALL Kirkby/Stadium Discussion Here

[SimonP]

No, no.

They're all supporters, its a fan campaign group - though some "fans" are more prominent than others.

Which is why there is no Member list or anything of that nature on their website

KEIOC gave their membership list at the Public Inquiry - it has four names on it

The line of questioning was very specific about membership, and the answers given were equally specific.

I'm not entirely sure what it had to do with a public inquiry, but nevertheless, it got the details out there that you need.

KEIOC is made up of four people who have the support of several thousand Evertonians through a shared belief.

If you could name any of those four who have businesses in or around Walton, that would be ace....

 

[SimonP]

The people who you claim, wrongly, will book this hotel out 40 times a year. A hotel in walton is 1 of the strangest ideas to come out, its a non starter

You might not like it, but it's an idea that Everton were actually courting themselves a decade or so ago when the plans to redevelop Goodison Park into a 55,000 seater stadium were in the national press

A hotel within walking distance of two Premier League football clubs would be full every time one of them played a home game

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

KEIOC gave their membership list at the Public Inquiry - it has four names on it

The line of questioning was very specific about membership, and the answers given were equally specific.

I'm not entirely sure what it had to do with a public inquiry, but nevertheless, it got the details out there that you need.

KEIOC is made up of four people who have the support of several thousand Evertonians through a shared belief.

If you could name any of those four who have businesses in or around Walton, that would be ace....

Perhaps you can enlighten us then as to what they do for a living:

Dave Kelly

Dave Woolford

Cathy Johansen

Brian Gould

I assume you know as your quite adamant they dont have anything to do with the surrouning area of GP

 

[GrandOldTeam]

KEIOC gave their membership list at the Public Inquiry - it has four names on it

The line of questioning was very specific about membership, and the answers given were equally specific.

I'm not entirely sure what it had to do with a public inquiry, but nevertheless, it got the details out there that you need.

Exactly. They arent going to provide a list of hundreds of people now are they? Like I said, there is no member system, you can not establish that someone is not affiliated with KEIOC, as you have, because they aren't one of four names.

Like with any campaign, there are going to be more prominent individuals involved. Doesn't mean they are the be all and end all of any campaign, will all priorities firmly affirmed within just the four.

Obviously local businesses will be backing KEIOC. Thats a no brainer.

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

You might not like it, but it's an idea that Everton were actually courting themselves a decade or so ago when the plans to redevelop Goodison Park into a 55,000 seater stadium were in the national press

A hotel within walking distance of two Premier League football clubs would be full every time one of them played a home game

Oh so red fans will want to stay in a hotel which is on Everton's grounds?
I cant really see that happening myself

 

[SimonP]

Perhaps you can enlighten us then as to what they do for a living:

Dave Kelly

Dave Woolford

Cathy Johansen

Brian Gould

I assume you know as your quite adamant they dont have anything to do with the surrouning area of GP

None of them own businesses in or around Goodison Park

At least one of them is a resident of Kirkby though

And Danny, what you are saying is effectively wanting to label all "no voters" as being part of KEIOC. MikelsGoat on here voted no, but he's as far removed from KEIOC as you can be.

Just because people voted no, doesn't mean they "are" KEIOC.

 

[kenada_blue]

Liverpool were working with the brief of "we want Stanley Park"

they set a figure of 70,000 as their capacity requirements

Everton have said several sites could fit a stadium on, but just that the current board can't afford to build it

And LCC never asked for a budget and gave it them.

AND.....of course there are probably sites that you could build a stadium on. There are probably sites in Liverpool where you could build the starship enterprise....they're still not viable because who's going to pay for it?

What are the 35 sites that KEIOC mentioned anyway?

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

None of them own businesses in or around Goodison Park.

So what do they do?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

None of them own businesses in or around Goodison Park

How do you know?

One is described as a "Local businessman"

Not so. While both men hold down full-time jobs – Kelly works for the Transport and General Workers Union, Fitzpatrick is a local businessman – they, along with Dave Woolford (vice chair) Cathy Johansen (secretary) and Brian Gould (treasurer) have invested every bit of spare time and energy into a cause in which they passionately believe.
“If we did not have flexible jobs, it would have been impossible for us,” says Fitzpatrick.

Flexible jobs ay? Self employed maybe? Who knows.

At least one of them is a resident of Kirkby though

Ah, another underlying motivation perhaps?

Of course not, they all just want whats best for Everton, and between the four of them (there are just four? arent there?) they know whats best.

And Danny, what you are saying is effectively wanting to label all "no voters" as being part of KEIOC. MikelsGoat on here voted no, but he's as far removed from KEIOC as you can be.

Just because people voted no, doesn't mean they "are" KEIOC.

No idea were you got that from.

 

[SimonP]

Oh so red fans will want to stay in a hotel which is on Everton's grounds?
I cant really see that happening myself

They park in our car park and the Kopites had managed to sell out our "marquee" for their first home game of the season before we withdrew permission to use it

I remember being invited to an "Everton" corporate event after a Man Utd game - at Anfield

I didn't go, but apparently it was full of both Everton and Man Utd "corporate fans" eating off plates with a red Liver bird on

Still, YOU can't see it happening can you Branson, so that's all that matters

 

[SimonP]

And LCC never asked for a budget and gave it them.

No idea what that means in English, but thanks anyway

AND.....of course there are probably sites that you could build a stadium on. There are probably sites in Liverpool where you could build the starship enterprise....they're still not viable because who's going to pay for it?

So there are viable sites, just not affordable sites?

Sound

What are the 35 sites that KEIOC mentioned anyway?

They're listed on the Knowsley website as part of KEIOC's proofs of evidence - it's freely accessible to anyone with a computer and an internet connection

 

[SimonP]

How do you know?

One is described as a "Local businessman"



Flexible jobs ay? Self employed maybe? Who knows.



Ah, another underlying motivation perhaps?

Of course not, they all just want whats best for Everton, and between the four of them (there are just four? arent there?) they know whats best.



No idea were you got that from.

You are desperate for your accusations to be true, but they're not

Dave Kelly? He works for a Union - it says so in the article you quoted

Not self-employed

The rest?

Well, maybe you should email KEIOC and ask?

As far as I'm aware, Colin Fitz answers emails pretty quickly and is happy to give information out.

 

[SimonP]

So what do they do?

Why don't you ask them?

 

[HalewoodBlue_ver.2.0]

Why don't you ask them?

Dont you know?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

You are desperate for your accusations to be true, but they're not.

Ah right.

I know full well surrounding Goodison businesses will be giving their full support to KEIOC.

If you honestly, (and by honestly, I dont mean what you willing to admit here, I mean in your head) believe there are absolutely no underlying priorities involved with KEIOC then more fool you.