Squad Goldmine

[Zatara]

Now we are in the lookout for a new manager and can see the amazing young players coming through I think it's worth evaluating the squad who the new boss has to work with.

GK -- Robles
RB -- Coleman / Kenny
RCB -- Stones / Pennington / Browning
LCB -- Jagielka / Mori / Galloway
LB -- Baines / Connolly
DM -- Barry / McCarthy / Davies / Ledson/ Walsh/Besic
CM -- Cleverley
LW -- Mirallas
AM -- Barkley / Dowell / Tarashaj(?)
RW -- Deulofeu / Lennon
CF -- Lukaku

Out of contract
Hibbert
Osman
Gibson
Pienaar

To be sold
Howard (deal done)
Oviedo
Garbutt
Kone
McAleny
McGeady
Niasse


If we take Unsworth at the 6/7 u21 players ready for the first team and have them as squad players we look really strong depth wise in alot of positions but lack a few really top class additions.

On the face of it, i dont consider this a "top 6 squad" unless we had:

GK -- Must be able to fit into the group and be top class, ideally someone with international experience and ability to organize a defence.

CB -- Someone with incredible leadership skills who can marshall the defence. Our own Terry, Adams, Dave Watson, Richard Gough figure who can inspire the team. This is especially important if we are going to play young players

CM -- We have lacked a true dominant centre midfield player since perhaps Parkinson or Speed or (whisper it) Don Huchison. We need someone in there who other teams see his name on the teamsheet and dont look forward to a midfield battle. The kids coming through may be the answer in 2/3 seasons but we need someone who can consistently dominate games now.

LW-- Mirallas is hot/cold and who knows if he will stay this summer. If Deulofeu was able to last 90mins and was on form all season he would be some player, we need the same on the left side.

CF-- Niasse looks like a disaster, however even if he comes good we still need someone to offer an alternative to Lukaku in attack.

If we lose the out of contract players and sell off the deadwood we will have a huge amount in the wage budget. Moshiri and the TV money should enable us to go and sign some top notch players...

If we sign the above player types for the 5 positions (half a team!) We will then hopefully have a "top 6 squad" which should improve each season as the young players get more experience.

As unsworth said, its a goldmine for a new manager.

 

[dublinbluenose]

I thought he was talking about money to spend when he referred to goldmine but maybe not.

There is a good nucleus there as long as we keep stones and lukaku

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Wouldn't sell Garbutt.

 

[Neiler]

I wouldnt be binning off Garbutt or Oviedo, Niasse i think deserves a full preseason and a bit of patience. Kone i doubt will be going anywhere after signing a new deal though a loan to a promoted team would prob suit most parties and hopefully McGeady would make his switch permenent if Weds came up, though i would say he is on mega wonga.

I really think we could do with 4/5 quality additions depending on outs, right down the spine of the squad, i wouldnt spare the finance on it either 20 mill a pop, that spine is then the standard that must be reached in terms of quality of getting into the everton team and i include the young players in that. If this year has thought us anything that coaching players to the max of thier potential is key rather then just signing players.

Though i havnt finalised who i would really like of the top of my head I rate the following:

Ospina/Pickford
Sigurddson
Yarmelenko
Benteke (depending on Rom)
Berehino
Amavi (Villa)
Ayoze Perez (Newcastle)

And a big aging grock centre half, Dann, Shawcross or Williams.

 

[Kiwi]

 

[bluestevon]

Now we are in the lookout for a new manager and can see the amazing young players coming through I think it's worth evaluating the squad who the new boss has to work with.

GK -- Robles
RB -- Coleman / Kenny
RCB -- Stones / Pennington / Browning
LCB -- Jagielka / Mori / Galloway
LB -- Baines / Connolly
DM -- Barry / McCarthy / Davies / Ledson/ Walsh/Besic
CM -- Cleverley
LW -- Mirallas
AM -- Barkley / Dowell / Tarashaj(?)
RW -- Deulofeu / Lennon
CF -- Lukaku

Out of contract
Hibbert
Osman
Gibson
Pienaar

To be sold
Howard (deal done)
Oviedo
Garbutt
Kone
McAleny
McGeady
Niasse


If we take Unsworth at the 6/7 u21 players ready for the first team and have them as squad players we look really strong depth wise in alot of positions but lack a few really top class additions.

On the face of it, i dont consider this a "top 6 squad" unless we had:

GK -- Must be able to fit into the group and be top class, ideally someone with international experience and ability to organize a defence.

CB -- Someone with incredible leadership skills who can marshall the defence. Our own Terry, Adams, Dave Watson, Richard Gough figure who can inspire the team. This is especially important if we are going to play young players

CM -- We have lacked a true dominant centre midfield player since perhaps Parkinson or Speed or (whisper it) Don Huchison. We need someone in there who other teams see his name on the teamsheet and dont look forward to a midfield battle. The kids coming through may be the answer in 2/3 seasons but we need someone who can consistently dominate games now.

LW-- Mirallas is hot/cold and who knows if he will stay this summer. If Deulofeu was able to last 90mins and was on form all season he would be some player, we need the same on the left side.

CF-- Niasse looks like a disaster, however even if he comes good we still need someone to offer an alternative to Lukaku in attack.

If we lose the out of contract players and sell off the deadwood we will have a huge amount in the wage budget. Moshiri and the TV money should enable us to go and sign some top notch players...

If we sign the above player types for the 5 positions (half a team!) We will then hopefully have a "top 6 squad" which should improve each season as the young players get more experience.

As unsworth said, its a goldmine for a new manager.

You missed out Holgate from your list of players btw.

From the young lads Zat, seriously doubt that quite many will be kept amongst the first team for next season regardless of who is the manager, if they are then most of them will just end up occasionally sitting on the bench and never getting any actual playing time, at most maybe 3 or 4 will make the first team squad for the season and the rest we will attempt to find high quality loan spells that will help them develop and get proper competitive games.

Kenny
Pennington
Galloway
Browning
Holgate
Dowell
Ledson
Walsh
Davies
Connelly
Throw in another couple of young players in
Rodriguez
Hennen
Tarashaj

Of that list, i guess most liklely to remain would be Davies, Tarashaj, Pennington, Galloway (although could see Galloway being loaned out to another prem side as he has shown he is good enough in the league - and would help to get him a full season as a starter)

Dowell, Holgate, Walsh, Connelly could all do with a well planned loan spell to help them develop physically or to just get them some games at a higher level than the under 21's to see how they habdle it

Ledson and Kenny - both i guess will depend on how we anaylse their development this year on loan, can see Kenny being retained in the first team though and maybe Ledson loaned again

Hennen, Rodriguez and Browning - i don't think will make the grade now, first two have not impressed really and the latter has had a injury at the worst possible time in his development which has seen other younger players maybe move past him in the pecking order (Browning is 22 by next season so not a kid anymore)

saying all this A LOT will depend on what happens from now - new manegr coming in and in the pre season as some of these lads are at an age when it can suddenly all go wrong or all click into place, then we have the fun and games of seeing who emerges from out of reletively nowhere next season from the academy - like Davies has done this season really

 

[Davidoff]

CM -- We have lacked a true dominant centre midfield player since perhaps Parkinson or Speed or (whisper it) Don Huchison. We need someone in there who other teams see his name on the teamsheet and dont look forward to a midfield battle. The kids coming through may be the answer in 2/3 seasons but we need someone who can consistently dominate games now.

I still think (a much leaner) Ross Barkley is the man to boss games from CM, I don't think he has the speed of thought to play the no.10 role. Playing in a 4141 formation as one of the two ahead of say G Barry or in a narrow 3 in a 433 formation I think he could consistently decimate the shape of opposition teams when making surging runs forward with the ball. He'd drag opposing midfielders and defenders toward him, and having at least three team mates ahead of him as he goes would give him more time and simpler passes to play them in on goal.

 

[chicoazul]

Now we are in the lookout for a new manager and can see the amazing young players coming through I think it's worth evaluating the squad who the new boss has to work with.

GK -- Robles
RB -- Coleman / Kenny
RCB -- Stones / Pennington / Browning
LCB -- Jagielka / Mori / Galloway
LB -- Baines / Connolly
DM -- Barry / McCarthy / Davies / Ledson/ Walsh/Besic
CM -- Cleverley
LW -- Mirallas
AM -- Barkley / Dowell / Tarashaj(?)
RW -- Deulofeu / Lennon
CF -- Lukaku

Out of contract
Hibbert
Osman
Gibson
Pienaar

To be sold
Howard (deal done)
Oviedo
Garbutt
Kone
McAleny
McGeady
Niasse


If we take Unsworth at the 6/7 u21 players ready for the first team and have them as squad players we look really strong depth wise in alot of positions but lack a few really top class additions.

On the face of it, i dont consider this a "top 6 squad" unless we had:

GK -- Must be able to fit into the group and be top class, ideally someone with international experience and ability to organize a defence.

CB -- Someone with incredible leadership skills who can marshall the defence. Our own Terry, Adams, Dave Watson, Richard Gough figure who can inspire the team. This is especially important if we are going to play young players

CM -- We have lacked a true dominant centre midfield player since perhaps Parkinson or Speed or (whisper it) Don Huchison. We need someone in there who other teams see his name on the teamsheet and dont look forward to a midfield battle. The kids coming through may be the answer in 2/3 seasons but we need someone who can consistently dominate games now.

LW-- Mirallas is hot/cold and who knows if he will stay this summer. If Deulofeu was able to last 90mins and was on form all season he would be some player, we need the same on the left side.

CF-- Niasse looks like a disaster, however even if he comes good we still need someone to offer an alternative to Lukaku in attack.

If we lose the out of contract players and sell off the deadwood we will have a huge amount in the wage budget. Moshiri and the TV money should enable us to go and sign some top notch players...

If we sign the above player types for the 5 positions (half a team!) We will then hopefully have a "top 6 squad" which should improve each season as the young players get more experience.

As unsworth said, its a goldmine for a new manager.

Oh Zat. Your unusual obsession with youth firmly places you as the Purple Aki of GOT.

 

[Zatara]

You missed out Holgate from your list of players btw.

From the young lads Zat, seriously doubt that quite many will be kept amongst the first team for next season regardless of who is the manager, if they are then most of them will just end up occasionally sitting on the bench and never getting any actual playing time, at most maybe 3 or 4 will make the first team squad for the season and the rest we will attempt to find high quality loan spells that will help them develop and get proper competitive games.

Kenny
Pennington
Galloway
Browning
Holgate
Dowell
Ledson
Walsh
Davies
Connelly
Throw in another couple of young players in
Rodriguez
Hennen
Tarashaj

Of that list, i guess most liklely to remain would be Davies, Tarashaj, Pennington, Galloway (although could see Galloway being loaned out to another prem side as he has shown he is good enough in the league - and would help to get him a full season as a starter)

Dowell, Holgate, Walsh, Connelly could all do with a well planned loan spell to help them develop physically or to just get them some games at a higher level than the under 21's to see how they habdle it

Ledson and Kenny - both i guess will depend on how we anaylse their development this year on loan, can see Kenny being retained in the first team though and maybe Ledson loaned again

Hennen, Rodriguez and Browning - i don't think will make the grade now, first two have not impressed really and the latter has had a injury at the worst possible time in his development which has seen other younger players maybe move past him in the pecking order (Browning is 22 by next season so not a kid anymore)

saying all this A LOT will depend on what happens from now - new manegr coming in and in the pre season as some of these lads are at an age when it can suddenly all go wrong or all click into place, then we have the fun and games of seeing who emerges from out of reletively nowhere next season from the academy - like Davies has done this season really

Yeah forgot holgate!

Agree that alot wont get consistent games and may alternate on loan spells but they will train with the first team and provide depth.

henen and leandro as well as mattioni off i think yes.

Browning one more season after his injury.

 

[Thomasc]

what happened to Henen? last I remember he was off to Fleetwood for loan, have they ruined him?

 

[Zatara]

I still think (a much leaner) Ross Barkley is the man to boss games from CM, I don't think he has the speed of thought to play the no.10 role. Playing in a 4141 formation as one of the two ahead of say G Barry or in a narrow 3 in a 433 formation I think he could consistently decimate the shape of opposition teams when making surging runs forward with the ball. He'd drag opposing midfielders and defenders toward him, and having at least three team mates ahead of him as he goes would give him more time and simpler passes to play them in on goal.

I dont think barry can play DM without a partner. Bsrkley lacks the tracking back and desire to win the ball and i think we need a player who can be a dominant 8 for us.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

Do you have a saved template for your threads?

 

[Davidoff]

I dont think barry can play DM without a partner. Bsrkley lacks the tracking back and desire to win the ball and i think we need a player who can be a dominant 8 for us.

Not sure I'd agree that he lacks the desire to track back, he looks to me like a little boy lost out on the pitch these days. I think he's been woefully mismanaged by the coaching staff over the last few years, and if we get a strong manager in who demands commitment and desire from all eleven on the pitch then we'll see a much different Ross Barkley imo.

 

[chicoazul]

Squat for Zat.

 

[Zezti]

Haven't we had this thread like 50 times in the last week?