Southgate to remain England manager (For a While)

[MikeH72]

Also they had the likes of in-form Jorginho, Verratti, Barella and Locatelli in midfield. People are re-writing history now because they subsequently failed to qualify for the World Cup.

It’s not rewriting history, it’s just history. They failed to qualify for the World Cup, either by topping their group or through the playoffs. They clearly aren’t great. You’ve just reeled off 4 players there of which 3 are average, not sure what point you’re trying to make with that one.

 

[MikeH72]

Spot on. Some have obviously already decided whichever top team England next beat (either in quals or at Euro 2024) "is crap now".

What do you mean “next beat”? As if we’ve already actually done it?

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

What do you mean “next beat”? As if we’ve already actually done it?

Point proven. So, which teams are good that England can get credit for beating?

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Even worse tbh, taking off our best player for Sterling at 2-1 down.

Both not great, and definitely a surprise he was withdrawn, but not really 'worse', as at least at 1-2 down it's case of 'well we're losing, so something hasn't quite worked out". I doubt France would have withdrawn Giroud on Sunday at 0-0.

 

[MikeH72]

Point proven. So, which teams are good that England can get credit for beating?

Well if we beat France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands or even Croatia in a knockout game at the Euros I’ll give him credit. Over to you Gareth.

 

[MikeH72]

Both not great, and definitely a surprise he was withdrawn, but not really 'worse', as at least at 1-2 down it's case of 'well we're losing, so something hasn't quite worked out". I doubt France would have withdrawn Giroud on Sunday at 0-0.

The subs were on the touchline ready to come on at 1-1 so it was his plan to bring them on then. They came on after the France goal, so he didn’t readjust to suit the game state. He is the worst in-game manager in the world.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Well if we beat France, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Netherlands or even Croatia in a knockout game at the Euros I’ll give him credit. Over to you Gareth.

Aah, but beating Croatia in a group game, therefore having a much easier route in the knockouts, doesn't count. Huge surprise there.

 

[MikeH72]

Aah, but beating Croatia in a group game, therefore having a much easier route in the knockouts, doesn't count. Huge surprise there.

Beating Croatia in the first group game was a good result, I’ll give him that, but we could’ve lost that game and still topped the group so it’s not really the same scenario as a knockout game is it.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

The subs were on the touchline ready to come on at 1-1 so it was his plan to bring them on then. They came on after the France goal, so he didn’t readjust to suit the game state. He is the worst in-game manager in the world.

Well, he's not one of the best, i'll give you that.

 

[MikeH72]

Well, he's one of the best, i'll give you that.

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[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

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Edited. I only realised 'not' was missing upon posting. lol

 

[MikeH72]

Edited. I only realised 'not' was missing upon posting. lol

Brilliant. I fully agree.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Beating Croatia in the first group game was a good result, I’ll give him that, but we could’ve lost that game and still topped the group so it’s not really the same scenario as a knockout game is it.

Theoretically, yes. In reality, they wouldn't have topped the group had they lost though.

 

[MikeH72]

Theoretically, yes. In reality, they wouldn't have topped the group had they lost though.

It would’ve meant we would’ve had to go out and beat Scotland, which we didn’t do.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

It would’ve meant we would’ve had to go out and beat Scotland, which we didn’t do.

Yeah, and finish 2nd.