So, Aliens.....

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Yep, tons of bilateraly symmetrical tetrapods with big eyes out there...via thousands of "eye witness" reports. Surely, no cognitive bias exists.

But more seriously, something to consider: with the rise of smartphones and easily-accessible cameras/video-recorders literally at your fingertips, the reporting of alien/UFO sightings has "mysteriously" declined. Hmmmm?
 
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Yeah. With silicon being the same family as carbon but less stable when bonded there'd probably have to be very different conditions to what we can survive in. Maybe those conditions could lead to basic lifeforms but not something as complex as ourselves.
I really like the idea of other life in the universe, be interesting to see what evolution could do starting from scratch somewhere else.

Indeed mate! I suspect that we will eventually find some remnant of ancient microbial life on Mars and perhaps even active microbes on one or two of the moons in our own solar system. That will be almost as exciting as beating the RS in the FA final!
 
I would imagine so, this snippet from an article gives you an understanding why I think that:

it means that the chances of our planet being the universe's only potentially habitable rock that actually hosts life would be not one in a million, one in a billion or even one in a trillion -- but one in a sextillion. (In case this is your first time seeing that word, a sextillion is a one with 21 zeroes behind it.)

Or to put it another way more than every grain of sand on every beach on Earth. Surely there must be at least semi intelligent lifeforms somewhere given those numbers.
 
I would imagine so, this snippet from an article gives you an understanding why I think that:

it means that the chances of our planet being the universe's only potentially habitable rock that actually hosts life would be not one in a million, one in a billion or even one in a trillion -- but one in a sextillion. (In case this is your first time seeing that word, a sextillion is a one with 21 zeroes behind it.)

Or to put it another way more than every grain of sand on every beach on Earth. Surely there must be at least semi intelligent lifeforms somewhere given those numbers.
I agree. I wonder why scientists keep going on about places with no water, they dismiss anywhere without water. What's not to say there are life forms out there that don't need water. I suppose they're going by science as we know it, not how other alien life forms might know it.
Science will evolve as we learn more and I for one think that there may even be life forms out there that are much more advanced than us.
If there was, and if they have studied us, I bet they've turned on their invisible shield so we can't find them :hayee:
 

As I have said before.

We restrict what we understand to be life to what we know. there could be life out there far beyond our comprehension and to what we could understand. not all life has to be two legs breathing air and a head. There could be things out there far superior to us in more ways than one that we couldn't possibly get our head around
 
It's only our superior arrogance that means this question needs answering.

We generally believe ourselves to be the pinnacle of evolution and yet we are willingly and wantonly destroying our habitat and self exterminating.

Intelligence? Pfft...
Often my kind of answer when religious folk state that God made the earth.
Do they really believe that some God, who made a planet so wonderful, with trees, dolphins, whales, sunsets, clouds, the weather, and any other part of wondrous nature you could mention, could he really be that stupid that he would spoil it all by putting the Human race on it. I don't think so.

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Often my kind of answer when religious folk state that God made the earth.
Do they really believe that some God, who made a planet so wonderful, with trees, dolphins, whales, sunsets, clouds, the weather, and any other part of wondrous nature you could mention, could he really be that stupid that he would spoil it all by putting the Human race on it. I don't think so.

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My disdain for religion is well documented on these boards, however, if you look at a lot of the ancient 'scriptures' and texts with a 'scientific' perspective they can be interpreted quite differently. A lot of the intent and meaning has been completely lost in translation, accidental and deliberate.
We think our scientific explanations are sacrosanct because we are limited by a 'scientific rationality' that has borders and parameters that measure and 'prove' within the confines of that system, it limits imagination.
By the opposing rationale the use of imagination, allegory, tale and wonder used by the ancients to explain and describe events we are yet to discover has its own real validity. This arrogance of ours, developed with each conquest of nature, has forced us to create a world as alien to theirs as theirs is to ours.

God is a word. Hijacked by a system and used to create a hierarchy. We think of God as human like in form, but depending on which history you read the word used was Elohim, Gods, plural. In their image was man created. Completely different perspective.
Replace the word God with 'nature' again it's a difference we won't accept yet science uses it to explain and exploit the fear of 'god' we carry to prop up and maintain a system that provides the science community with comfort.
We don't 'know' anything. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Not for certain.

Hit religious people with facts and they dismiss them because of their faith. Do likewise to the scientific community and guess what? They dismiss it as irrational. Go figure :)
 
As I have said before.

We restrict what we understand to be life to what we know. there could be life out there far beyond our comprehension and to what we could understand. not all life has to be two legs breathing air and a head. There could be things out there far superior to us in more ways than one that we couldn't possibly get our head around

Probably wouldn't be hard in your case mate!


Sorry, you left yourself open there x
 

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