Sky Sports on iphone

[maddison]

You can bet they do.

The Hero also has a decent mp3 player and takes micro SD cards so you can choose your internal memory unlike the iphone where youre locked to how much you purchase it for.

The Hero feels very nice mate, its sturdier and teflon coated so you dont get stains and scratches.

The iphone is a thing of beauty aswell but doesnt justify being more than double the price, its apple taking the piss.

Slight problem with the SD card theory, the phone itself is usually crippled with 128 or 256 of internal memory, basically when you load apps it has to load something on to the internal memory. I had windows mobile phones for years, quite liked them, but the SD cards aren't all their cracked up to be. You think you can fill them with apps, and quickly find out the phone is just buggered because of the internal memory limitation

It can multi task though, which I really liked. I also liked the e mail applications, the web browser was dire, and most of the apps were shockingly sh*te, but that can be said for the iPhone apps too

I've never used an android, so can't comment, a friend has one and likes it.

I've used blackberries extensively through work, never liked them and after winmo got push too, never understood why anyone would want one

As for the iPhone pricing, yes they are kind of taking the piss. It's deliberate, and they've never hid it. It's called marketing. All mobile phone companies have a premium handset. Nokia used to have it with the 8800 series phones, they did bugger all aside from look great. The iPhone has stipulations put on it by Apple to stop the networks giving it away for free.

The main issue i had with winmo was that you just can't upgrade the things. You get one on the networks and you're pretty much stuck with teh same operating system until you bin the handset. If you know how to hack these things, sure you can upgrade via the black market, but I've never really understood why I needed to be a PC geek to update my phone. Basically Microsoft release updates, the networks stop you from updating. It's really annoying

 

[Goat]

If Microshit is so fabulous, how come you're still on xp?? ........


You're anti change

See thats a very bad arguement, the reason is two fold, on 1 hand I like XP and dont see a reason to change and the other is that im not a Microsoft fanboy, I just prefer their products and dont see the need to fund their cornering of the worlds finance.

i.e. Vista was crap and I aint paying money to upgrade to this Windows 7 or what ever its called.

 

[maddison]

if you want a cheap smartphone, I don't think you can go far wrong by looking at the Vegas touch. Orange and T mobile do it for circa 40-50 quid on PAYG

 

[chicoazul]

If Microshit is so fabulous, how come you're still on xp?? ........


You're anti change

You're showing your true colours now, after that "In dead balanced post" last month.

Microshit sounded awful too, you blubbering fool.

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[maddison]

See thats a very bad arguement, the reason is two fold, on 1 hand I like XP and dont see a reason to change and the other is that im not a Microsoft fanboy, I just prefer their products and dont see the need to fund their cornering of the worlds finance.

i.e. Vista was crap and I aint paying money to upgrade to this Windows 7 or what ever its called.

Haha, I"m just pulling your leg mate. I prefer XP my self too, so I can understand you not wanting to upgrade. I do quite like the looks of Windows 7 though and fancy having a bash about with it sometime soon

I'm not a Microsoft hater as such, I use MS Office on the mac and refused to use Blackberries when I could help it even when I was selling the things. When the iPhone first came out I used both the MS device (HTC touch) and the iPhone. Apple finally got their act together and I switched full time.

One thing I will say though, without competition Apple could possibly be a total nightmare. Quite a few people who've used Apple products for a long time will quite happily say that if Apple had MS's market share, they'd be worse!

 

[maddison]

You're showing your true colours now, after that "In dead balanced post" last month.

Microshit sounded awful too, you blubbering fool.

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I said I tried to be balanced, I never claimed to have succeeded

 

[chicoazul]

Slight problem with the SD card theory, the phone itself is usually crippled with 128 or 256 of internal memory, basically when you load apps it has to load something on to the internal memory. I had windows mobile phones for years, quite liked them, but the SD cards aren't all their cracked up to be. You think you can fill them with apps, and quickly find out the phone is just buggered because of the internal memory limitation

It can multi task though, which I really liked. I also liked the e mail applications, the web browser was dire, and most of the apps were shockingly sh*te, but that can be said for the iPhone apps too

I've never used an android, so can't comment, a friend has one and likes it.

I've used blackberries extensively through work, never liked them and after winmo got push too, never understood why anyone would want one

As for the iPhone pricing, yes they are kind of taking the piss. It's deliberate, and they've never hid it. It's called marketing. All mobile phone companies have a premium handset. Nokia used to have it with the 8800 series phones, they did bugger all aside from look great. The iPhone has stipulations put on it by Apple to stop the networks giving it away for free.

The main issue i had with winmo was that you just can't upgrade the things. You get one on the networks and you're pretty much stuck with teh same operating system until you bin the handset. If you know how to hack these things, sure you can upgrade via the black market, but I've never really understood why I needed to be a PC geek to update my phone. Basically Microsoft release updates, the networks stop you from updating. It's really annoying

All my apps are stored on my SD card mate.

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[maddison]

And you get no performance hit?

What OS are you running? Don't worry I'm not calling you out on this one, just interested in your reply.

The problem used to be with the demand paging. Apps can't/ couldn't? run directly from the SD card because an SD card wasn't capable of running executable data. so the app would need to be run on the system RAM. As previously mentioned, the devices don't come with a great deal of system RAM. So this meant that the app would take a performance hit, and you were limited to the amount of Apps you could effectively sore on the SD card and use in a meaningful way, ie without getting a warning message telling you you were out of memory.

This was the main reason why iPhone OS went down the route of not allowing multi tasking in the first place, a design implementation to overcome the constraints of not having a large amount of system memory.

Now I know the loader doesn't pull the whole of the application into system RAM to run it, but in real world usage I used to quite frequently come across the problem of being out of memory. I had it in winmo 2003, 5, and 6. If the issue is now gone, I might get one of those £50 htc rebrands for my bro

I haven't run 6.1 or 6.5, so it would be quite interesting to know if you're running one of these??

 

[McBain]

Bad nerds

 

[chicoazul]

And you get no performance hit?

What OS are you running? Don't worry I'm not calling you out on this one, just interested in your reply.

The problem used to be with the demand paging. Apps can't/ couldn't? run directly from the SD card because an SD card wasn't capable of running executable data. so the app would need to be run on the system RAM. As previously mentioned, the devices don't come with a great deal of system RAM. So this meant that the app would take a performance hit, and you were limited to the amount of Apps you could effectively sore on the SD card and use in a meaningful way, ie without getting a warning message telling you you were out of memory.

This was the main reason why iPhone OS went down the route of not allowing multi tasking in the first place, a design implementation to overcome the constraints of not having a large amount of system memory.

Now I know the loader doesn't pull the whole of the application into system RAM to run it, but in real world usage I used to quite frequently come across the problem of being out of memory. I had it in winmo 2003, 5, and 6. If the issue is now gone, I might get one of those £50 htc rebrands for my bro

I haven't run 6.1 or 6.5, so it would be quite interesting to know if you're running one of these??

Ive mounted the SD card, well my mate did as I dont have much of a clue so all my apps are stored on the SD card - I suffer zero slow down on them, either opening up or operating them.

Ive got a google android operating system, if that helps.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

I use mine a very lot for work mate, the contacts and set up are amazing and it has replaced my Palmtop in organising my diary, tasks and word/excel/PDF files.

In fact, it works a dream.

i had a sony erricsson p series 5 years ago that did all that, and had sat nav, i've still got it in the cupboard and the newer one as well which is unused and has wifi.

i have seen a hero and it is a nice phone, but thats all i want, a phone with a decent camera, which i have.

a better signal is required more than anything else as orange is terrible round here.

 

[maddison]

Yeah it does, i'm guessing it's something that the Android OS overcomes in terms of how it handles memory. I've spoke with a mate who's not long sold his win os phone, and he confirmed the problem is still persistent. He wasn't running 6.5 though, which i've googled (i am sounding geeky) and seems to handle the registry different in terms of how it handles and allocates memory

Anyway, they look pretty smart those Android phones

 

[chicoazul]

i had a sony erricsson p series 5 years ago that did all that, and had sat nav, i've still got it in the cupboard and the newer one as well which is unused and has wifi.

i have seen a hero and it is a nice phone, but thats all i want, a phone with a decent camera, which i have.

a better signal is required more than anything else as orange is terrible round here.

The camera on it is 5mp but a bag of [Poor language removed] if Im being honest. The c902 smashes it all over the show.

 

[Dylan]

A guy at work just got a Motorola Droid a couple of weeks ago. Now I dislike Motorola, but this Droid isn't like any of their other phones, this is actually quite a snappy phone. Runs the lastest version of Android....you can be streaming music, then take a call and it seamlessly transitions without a hiccup.

And for the record....I love my Blackberry. I think I want a Storm, but I have to change providers and I dont want to do that.