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If I'm not mistaken Tim is was you who once calculated that even a 70k stadium full week in week out wouldn't see us catch anyone above us financially?
A real eye opener that for many.
Kind of agree re loans although should we do too well they will definitely dry up domestically. Be interesting to see RM's strategy this summer......,
A real eye opener that for many.
Kind of agree re loans although should we do too well they will definitely dry up domestically. Be interesting to see RM's strategy this summer......,
Eminently sensible. You don't want to admit you have £10 million to splurge on deadline day. Plead poverty, drive a bargain.
Not that this viewpoint is commonly held amongst those melting down on here.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Having £20m in the bank is not the same thing.
We have a wage budget and a pot of money to spend on transfer fees/agents fees/etc
Why is it so difficult to believe that Heitinga's wages (the 2nd highest at the club, currently) are an issue?
Let's say we ignore Heitinga, spend £5m on a player and give him a 5 year contract on £40k per week. Bit of basic maths, before you get into Premier League Levy, Agents fees, etc - if we have £20m, that's £5m gone on the transfer fee.
Because we're having to use our capital to fund his wages, rather than the wage budget, that's a contract worth £10m to the player. We've just spent three quarters of our "pot" because we've had to use it for wages.
Jay
Player Valuation: £8m
Well 6 years i've been hearing Moyes is fed up with the board and was the unluckiest man alive, he was being tortured by the board, bla bla bla bla
The fact is, he was one of the 20 most paid managers in the World, happily extended his contract and was going to extend it again and be our manager right now if the United job didn't become available for him
As for Martines, before the start of the winter window he said he doesnt like this window and prefers the summer, he also said he will make sure we come out stronger at the end of the window, we sold Jelavic and replaced him with Traore + MCGeady, that's for me is "Stronger", even if we let Heithinga go and not bring someone else, we will still be stronger than the start of the window
As for the injuries, a manager can not build a team and spend money because of injuries, he can use the loan market or sign free transfers on short term deals
We are a club with limited funds for transfers, majority of our transfer money comes from players sale, that's been the situation for the past 10 years and nothing suggest its changed now, Martines came in, he was given some money and spent it on Kone and Joel, than he sold Fellaini, Victor and Jelavic and bought McCarthy and McGeady and spent money to loan Barry, Lukaku, Traore, he got 40M from selling the above players and spent almost half of it on those who he signed (without Kone and Joel, he spent around 20M on McCarth, Mcgeady and the loan money), how much he has right now is not clear, some say 15M, others say 20M, some even suggest up to 30M, i have no idea, he can spend that money today or keep it till the summer, the board has nothing to do with it.
Now if next summer we don't spend any money and play next season with only Kone as striker, only then we can come and say the board stole 20M from the transfers
I think there is an agreement in place amongst PL clubs not to increase wages by more than 4m a season. Perhaps that is why they want JH out the door ( 2-3m? ) before doing anything? Hard to be sure of course without knowing our wages in July vs now......
runlikehell
Player Valuation: £5m
It seems like giving johnny the fraud massive wages has come back to bite us
as if anyone is gonna pay him what he is earning here
as if anyone is gonna pay him what he is earning here
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
ha Ha Ha...that's right Greg, get back on message, you slipped up there.
I bet Alan Myers just got right on the blower to him: 'Greg FFS! Dont make it look like we're not giving him money to spend"
As predictable as it is pathetic.
KevMirallas
Player Valuation: £35m
This does make sense also. Proof will be in the pudding I suppose.
To me, Canales makes so much sense. Good player, versatile, cheap and he wants out. Looks like he's Sociedad bound though.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
A deadline day, panic signing that we didn't really need if memory serves correctly
How ironic
In disbelief at the last few posts... apparently Heitinga's wages for five months are enough to stop us reinforcing and pushing for a Champions League place... And that's actually a case of "fair enough".
Bizarre. It's defending the indefensible. You're talking about £1m or so in wages. We should have £20m in the bank from transfers alone, and we freed up Fellaini and Neville's wages in the summer and didn't replace them with anything near the same expenditure.
Bizarre. It's defending the indefensible. You're talking about £1m or so in wages. We should have £20m in the bank from transfers alone, and we freed up Fellaini and Neville's wages in the summer and didn't replace them with anything near the same expenditure.
Don't be fooled mate, that's the disguise for the usual tactics from Everton in a transfer window.
Fellaini, £60k a week, moved on. Neville, £45-50k a week, moved on. Anichebe was on around £25k.
We brought in Kone, McCarthy and Robles - I'd be surprised if their wages even approached Fellaini's in total.
There's no way on earth we should be dependant on moving Heitinga out. He's here for five more months, that's £1m in already accepted expenditure on the books; moving him out would/should be a bonus rather than something that dictates our ambitions in the transfer market.
How anyone can defend this is mind-boggling.
EDIT: Oh, oh, Jelavic this window out for McGeady, again a saving in wages more than likely, before anyone starts up about the "newcomers".
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