Should we go for Silva?

[Sarnia Kevin]

No, No, No. He doesn't even talk a good job. I think he had a "New Manager" boost at Watford that made him look good but, he isn't.

 

[COYBL25]

Rafael is still the only option

 

[brieverton]

I think it's a bit harsh mate. As soon as Watford reused to let him go he was finished there. The players threw him under the bus like they did Flores and Mazzarri before him.

He was never my number 1 choice, I'd have wanted Tuchel, but his record is very commendable, has experience of the league, a young progressive coach who seems to fit our profile. I worry that we will end up going for another top manager and be left with an Allardyce.

Lets be clear here, for all of the good spoken of Allardyce, it should be clear now, if we have any serious ambition of improving on 7th he looks the wrong manager week on week.

I think there's a compromise here, which is you open a dialogue with Silva, pre-emptively for the summer. It's very hard on Allardyce but it's what ruthless teams do. He has 14 games to radically overhaul his and the players performance if he wants to be given the job full time.

I don’t agree mate, the circumstances were a test of his ability and discipline and he failed.
Of course the players are a contributing factor but he could have chosen to rebuff us at the first opportunity and he didn’t.

He should have resigned - it would have got him the job here and Watford could have had their sulk for 5 minutes.

It’s quite feasible to imagine him in similar circumstances with us, bailing out on us in his mind whilst encouraging interest from elsewhere.

He was working with a tinpot structure there, but he let himself down.

Post Allardyce whenever that comes we can’t afford the wrong appointment.

 

[Carlito]

I would still consider him an improvement on Allardyce, but I'd definitely prefer Flores.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I don’t agree mate, the circumstances were a test of his ability and discipline and he failed.
Of course the players are a contributing factor but he could have chosen to rebuff us at the first opportunity and he didn’t.

He should have resigned - it would have got him the job here and Watford could have had their sulk for 5 minutes.

It’s quite feasible to imagine him in similar circumstances with us, bailing out on us in his mind whilst encouraging interest from elsewhere.

He was working with a tinpot structure there, but he let himself down.

Post Allardyce whenever that comes we can’t afford the wrong appointment.

Not as easy as that though mate, he could have tried to resign, but at the end of the day Watford would have still held his contract, so they could have made a stance and stuck him on gardening leave.

 

[Zezti]

Watford conceded 44 goals this season. Actually more than us.
Putting our shambolic defence in the hands of another, shall we say, 'continental' manager is a recipe for going straight to the championship.

I'd love us to be better going forward, but I don't want Martinez 2.0.

 

[Kienic]

No, I think they way he flirted with us should be a worry that if he was to come and hopefully do well and rebuild his rep that if someone bigger came in for him he wont make the same mistake that he made with Watford by staying 'loyal' and will bolt given a chance.

 

[billyblue80]

No he's not got a record as much as his style would improve us he's very Martinez like, if anything he's less loyal than Roberto too. If he did well he'd be off to a 'bigger side'. We need a hungry young coach with a long term view and strategy with a style of play and long term vision. Our Porch essentially.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I bet Allardyce is laughing his balls off at Silva being sacked knowing how bad Moshiri wanted him.

 

[Zezti]

Only Stoke have conceded more goals than Watford this season...

Absolutely 100% never want him in control of our defence.

 

[davids]

Not as easy as that though mate, he could have tried to resign, but at the end of the day Watford would have still held his contract, so they could have made a stance and stuck him on gardening leave.

True but would they have carried on paying his wages plus those of his replacement?Anyway don't forget we are discussing a manager who.selected Tom Cleverley on a regular.basis

 

[PhilM]

To be fair to @4737carlin, I've always been been vocal how I'd even consider Rafael. It would be incredibly galling, but he's a very god manager.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

True but would they have carried on paying his wages plus those of his replacement?Anyway don't forget we are discussing a manager who.selected Tom Cleverley on a regular.basis

Think them knocking back £13m from us in compensation mate makes me think money wouldn't be an issue for them, and it would be more about them not being bullied.

Supposedly Cleverley has been doing well with them.

 

[LiamG]

No. It would make us look to be in an even bigger state than we are.

Hiring and firing on that scale would make Moshiri look like Jesus Gill.

And Silva has failed his audition spectacularly.

Not now, nor in the summer.

Chelsea are another club that change their managers regularly. It does them no harm.

Part of the game now which is why we moved to a DOF.

 

[catcherintherye]

I don’t agree mate, the circumstances were a test of his ability and discipline and he failed.
Of course the players are a contributing factor but he could have chosen to rebuff us at the first opportunity and he didn’t.

He should have resigned - it would have got him the job here and Watford could have had their sulk for 5 minutes.

It’s quite feasible to imagine him in similar circumstances with us, bailing out on us in his mind whilst encouraging interest from elsewhere.

He was working with a tinpot structure there, but he let himself down.

Post Allardyce whenever that comes we can’t afford the wrong appointment.

No and I can't disagree with that. I think most managers would have failed in the same circumstances though.It's an annual thing for their managers and they have had some decent ones.

He could have resigned, but they were threatening anything from 6-18 months gardening leave. I can see why, for am ambitious coach that was a no-go. Watford should have let him go, and in failing to do so have screwed themselves over along with Everton and Silva.

I can understand people want a bigger name manager. Our last search has ended up with us taking a fella who hasn't finished in the top half for about a decade and has recently managed Crystal Palace and Sunderland. I have very little faith that we can deliver and close on a major deal, particularly for a manager within a club. While there is undoubtedly an ambitious rhetoric from Moshiri with each passing day he looks more delusional to me, a problem heightened by the incompetency and low expectations of his board.

In that context I am very wary about setting our ambitions much too high and ending up keeping Allardyce or with another equivalent appointment. The fella has managed Sporting and won the league in very impressive style at Olympiakos. He seems very much a good appointment for the level we are at, albeit not a perfect appointment for where we want to be or where Moshiri thinks we are.

Who do you think we could go for come the summer mate? Do you think we could attract a Tuchel?