Should Everton learn from Juve's mistake?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Nebbiolo

Valuation: £108 million
I found this on the BBC, via Toffeeweb (article below link)

BBC SPORT | Football | Europe | Juve set to make stadium history

Italian giants Juventus have unveiled plans for a new 40,000-seat stadium on the site of their former ground.
When complete, Juventus will become the first team in Italy's Serie A to own their own stadium, as most Italian grounds are owned by local councils.
Juve, who currently share the Stadio Olimpico with local rivals Torino, will pay an estimated £90m for the new stadium, which will open in May 2011.
Juventus left the unpopular Stadio Delle Alpi in 2006.
The Juventus president hailed the plans as "a source of great pride".
Giovanni Cobolli Gigli said: "Juventus is the first club in Italy to have a stadium all its own."
He added that fans at the new stadium will sit so close to the action and will be able "to hear players' voices".
o.gif
[The move] gives the club a chance to diversify its revenue and find new sources for future investments


Giovanni Cobolli Gigli
President, Juventus

The plans will see the restructure of the site of former home ground the Stadio Delle Alpi, which still stands on the outskirts of Turin.
The Stadio Delle Alpi was opened as recently as 1990 - where it hosted England's penalty shoot-out defeat to West Germany in that year's World Cup - but is now almost disused save for major European matches, having proved immensely unpopular with supporters.
Despite Juventus winning Italy's Serie A title in both 2005 and 2006, attendances often failed to reach the 30,000 mark in a stadium built to hold more than twice that number.
Fans labelled the ground "soulless", blaming its location, on the outskirts of the city, and poor visibility of the pitch from some parts of the ground.
Juventus left the Stadio Delle Alpi in 2006, three years after buying the stadium from Turin council, and now ground-share with Torino in the 25,500-capacity Stadio Olimpico, which opened this year.
In Italy most stadia, like the Stadio Olimpico and (until 2003) the Stadio Delle Alpi, are operated by local councils, and many are shared between rival teams.
But the Stadio Olimpico is also considered a disappointment, sporting a scaled-back capacity with which both squatters Juve and permanent residents Torino are said to be unhappy.
The new plans will do away with a running track at the Stadio Delle Alpi site, a feature often insisted upon by Italian councils but rarely popular with supporters, as it increases the distance from the stands to the pitch.
o.gif
_45225649_-58.jpg

I don't like it how he creates controversies


Juventus' Claudio Ranieri on Inter's Jose Mourinho

The club also intend to add a new commercial centre as they restructure the site.
The move "gives the club a chance to diversify its revenue and find new sources for future investments," said Cobolli Gigli.
Building work on a new stadium had been expected to commence in 2006 but, following a match-fixing scandal which saw the club relegated to Serie B for the first time in their history, the entire Juventus board resigned, delaying the project.
Meanwhile, former Chelsea managers Claudio Ranieri and Jose Mourinho will be reunited on Saturday as Juventus face Inter Milan at the San Siro.
Inter coach Mourinho and Juventus counterpart Ranieri have indulged in a war of words in the run-up to the game.
Mourinho has criticised Ranieri's knowledge of English and accused the 57-year-old of being too old, among other jibes.
"I don't like it how he [Mourinho] creates controversies," Ranieri told Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport.
The two clubs have a fierce rivalry, not helped by the 2006 match-fixing scandal, in which Inter were awarded the Serie A title in a courtroom following Juventus' demotion to Serie B.
Third-placed Juve, on the back of seven straight wins in all competitions, can move level with leaders Inter if they win.
 

Scary thing is, they can probably pay for that when Man City buy Buffon for mega bucks.

As for their ground, I don't think having a track around it helped matters. We have a few American members here, how do you guys find out of town stadia? I know America has quite a few due to more space for the bloody great car parks your grounds tend to have.
 
Agreed, except I would refurbish rather than start afresh (y)

Im not too sure, Refurbish well - would it cost more or less? Im not sure...im sure as its old it would be harder, but starting afresh you have demolition costs etc...

...But i think a brand new stadium is the way to go...unless our refurbishment looks great.
 

Im not too sure, Refurbish well - would it cost more or less? Im not sure...im sure as its old it would be harder, but starting afresh you have demolition costs etc...

...But i think a brand new stadium is the way to go...unless our refurbishment looks great.

I'm thinking money. A basic refurb could surely be had for £100m or so. In the scheme of things, that's not that much. And that would put the stadium at a decent level, which is all we currently require (like we're gonna get 50,000 if we move up to Kirkby).
 
"Fans labelled the ground "soulless", blaming its location, on the outskirts of the city"

Thank goodness we're not planning a move like that. :unsure:
 

Juventus are not in the same league as us support wise,they only had 25000 for a champions league match against Real Madrid this season anf JUST 5000 for the home game with Bate Borisov.
 
havent juve moved into turin from outside, they played in a different stadium before the del alpi, or was it just done up and renamed ? just got my answer here
Stadio Delle Alpi

didnt the [Poor language removed] play torino a couple of years ago ? it was before the olympico was built, but it deffo wasnt the del alpi, i remember the whole of 1 side had a banner from the pitch to the roof, where the feck was that then.

i hope that nobody who has been involved in stadium construction in turin will ever set foot on merseyside, unless of course it's to work on the new shitebowl:D
 
I found this on the BBC, via Toffeeweb (article below link)

BBC SPORT | Football | Europe | Juve set to make stadium history

Italian giants Juventus have unveiled plans for a new 40,000-seat stadium on the site of their former ground.
When complete, Juventus will become the first team in Italy's Serie A to own their own stadium, as most Italian grounds are owned by local councils.
Juve, who currently share the Stadio Olimpico with local rivals Torino, will pay an estimated £90m for the new stadium, which will open in May 2011.
Juventus left the unpopular Stadio Delle Alpi in 2006.
The Juventus president hailed the plans as "a source of great pride".
Giovanni Cobolli Gigli said: "Juventus is the first club in Italy to have a stadium all its own."
He added that fans at the new stadium will sit so close to the action and will be able "to hear players' voices".
o.gif
[The move] gives the club a chance to diversify its revenue and find new sources for future investments


Giovanni Cobolli Gigli
President, Juventus

The plans will see the restructure of the site of former home ground the Stadio Delle Alpi, which still stands on the outskirts of Turin.
The Stadio Delle Alpi was opened as recently as 1990 - where it hosted England's penalty shoot-out defeat to West Germany in that year's World Cup - but is now almost disused save for major European matches, having proved immensely unpopular with supporters.
Despite Juventus winning Italy's Serie A title in both 2005 and 2006, attendances often failed to reach the 30,000 mark in a stadium built to hold more than twice that number.
Fans labelled the ground "soulless", blaming its location, on the outskirts of the city, and poor visibility of the pitch from some parts of the ground.
Juventus left the Stadio Delle Alpi in 2006, three years after buying the stadium from Turin council, and now ground-share with Torino in the 25,500-capacity Stadio Olimpico, which opened this year.
In Italy most stadia, like the Stadio Olimpico and (until 2003) the Stadio Delle Alpi, are operated by local councils, and many are shared between rival teams.
But the Stadio Olimpico is also considered a disappointment, sporting a scaled-back capacity with which both squatters Juve and permanent residents Torino are said to be unhappy.
The new plans will do away with a running track at the Stadio Delle Alpi site, a feature often insisted upon by Italian councils but rarely popular with supporters, as it increases the distance from the stands to the pitch.
o.gif
_45225649_-58.jpg

I don't like it how he creates controversies


Juventus' Claudio Ranieri on Inter's Jose Mourinho

The club also intend to add a new commercial centre as they restructure the site.
The move "gives the club a chance to diversify its revenue and find new sources for future investments," said Cobolli Gigli.
Building work on a new stadium had been expected to commence in 2006 but, following a match-fixing scandal which saw the club relegated to Serie B for the first time in their history, the entire Juventus board resigned, delaying the project.
Meanwhile, former Chelsea managers Claudio Ranieri and Jose Mourinho will be reunited on Saturday as Juventus face Inter Milan at the San Siro.
Inter coach Mourinho and Juventus counterpart Ranieri have indulged in a war of words in the run-up to the game.
Mourinho has criticised Ranieri's knowledge of English and accused the 57-year-old of being too old, among other jibes.
"I don't like it how he [Mourinho] creates controversies," Ranieri told Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport.
The two clubs have a fierce rivalry, not helped by the 2006 match-fixing scandal, in which Inter were awarded the Serie A title in a courtroom following Juventus' demotion to Serie B.
Third-placed Juve, on the back of seven straight wins in all competitions, can move level with leaders Inter if they win.
In all honesty anything is better than Kirkby.If for financial reasons we must move then fine but there is not enough scope at Kirkby to make it worth while.I would far sooner play a season at any ground the club choose and move back to a refitted Goodison.the sooner we ditch Kirkby the sooner plan B will appear trust me i'm an Evertonian who saw dashing Dave from the boys pen(y)
 
when you read the link i put up and realise what attendances they survive on in italy i cant help thinking, where the feck does all the money come from, are the presidents that loaded that they bankroll everything ? or is it all from sponsorship. whichever way it seems that they are only building a 35,000 capacity stadium, ironic that they can only pull that in their home city, yet could fill any stadium in italy if they went there for a home game, san siro for a uefa game and if i remember correctly they went all the way to napoli as well for one and filled the place.
 

Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join Grand Old Team to get involved in the Everton discussion. Signing up is quick, easy, and completely free.

Shop

Back
Top