2024/25 Sean Dyche - Sacked

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Dyche related stuff in here confuses me. He did well last year to keep us up in the storm of 2 points deductions but he was awful this season and post the Villa loss early in the season appeared to have ran out of ideas. I don’t really understand why both can’t be true. Fair play to him for keeping us up last year but his lack of ideas was sending us down. We’d scraped points but the increasing inability to score was going to sink us. His blaming of everyone else but himself this season was a clear sign he didn’t know how to fix it.

Grateful for what he did but made up he’s gone, you can’t go an entire season with his scoring record unless you want to play in the championship next season. His turgid football had lost the fans and the players, if you’re winning games it’s acceptable but without points it has a shelf life that was long expired
 
An injustice for what, he should really have been sacked a couple times during his tenure here, only saved by absent owners.

Would agree myself, you judge most situations, by the environment, context and resources.

The season and half he was here he achieved fantastic outcomes for the club judging the above, against logic and probability.

Did he run out of road this year - sure - but it is/was an odd vacuum though, im not sure we treated him all that well if im honest.

All of the above can be true and ok to be honest.

Its why a consensus will never be reached on here.
 

Would agree myself, you judge most situations, by the environment, context and resources.

The season and half he was here he achieved fantastic outcomes for the club judging the above, against logic and probability.

Did he run out of road this year - sure - but it is/was an odd vacuum though, im not sure we treated him all that well if im honest.

All of the above can be true and ok to be honest.
I personally think some of the words you use in description of him don't fit the context. 'Fantastic outcomes' isn't going on a 13 game rut or throwing leads away on the 87th minute due to not being able read the pattern of play of the game.
 
He was a limited manager with no tactical nous whatsoever and Moyes coming in has shown that.
While I agree, I think it shows his heart wasn’t in it, he’d got to the point where he couldn’t be bothered to seek new ideas.
I was never a Dyche fan but to be fair to him any manager going through the mess of the original Friedkin/777 takeovers and points deduction would have been affected.
He was too political in his answers and unwilling to show his true feelings and that meant he would never connect with the fans.
 
Dyche related stuff in here confuses me. He did well last year to keep us up in the storm of 2 points deductions but he was awful this season and post the Villa loss early in the season appeared to have ran out of ideas. I don’t really understand why both can’t be true. Fair play to him for keeping us up last year but his lack of ideas was sending us down. We’d scraped points but the increasing inability to score was going to sink us. His blaming of everyone else but himself this season was a clear sign he didn’t know how to fix it.

Grateful for what he did but made up he’s gone, you can’t go an entire season with his scoring record unless you want to play in the championship next season. His turgid football had lost the fans and the players, if you’re winning games it’s acceptable but without points it has a shelf life that was long expired
I honestly don’t think anybody has criticised him for last year.

Most have thanked him and appreciated the job he did under very difficult circumstances.

Don’t let the ramblings of a couple of maniacs who just throw out as much random wild statements as they can on a daily basis tell you otherwise.
 
I personally think some of the words you use in description of him don't fit the context. 'Fantastic outcomes' isn't going on a 13 game rut or throwing leads away on the 87th minute due to not being able read the pattern of play of the game.

Its been done to death mate. We're not going to break or cover new ground.

Only so many times we can all have the same debate, go macro, then micro and not agree ultimately.

Lids will land where they land. ;)

As i say my comparison was the contrasting sliding door fortunes of Leicester City and Everton FC.

Ill let that speak for "Fantastic outcomes" in that comparative context as it exists today. ;)

Ill never not be grateful to him. ;)
 
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I honestly don’t think anybody has criticised him for last year.

Most have thanked him and appreciated the job he did under very difficult circumstances.

Don’t let the ramblings of a couple of maniacs who just throw out as much random wild statements as they can on a daily basis tell you otherwise.

I just don’t get why some people are obsessed with what he did last year. All because he kept us up last year is no good to us if he’d have sent us down this year
 
I just don’t get why some people are obsessed with what he did last year. All because he kept us up last year is no good to us if he’d have sent us down this year
It doesn’t mean we can’t be grateful for last season.

The points deductions made last season very difficult, the mental affect on the players would have been a concern.

Let’s just give him a bit of credit for managing that and based on the 2 seasons before, 48 points was a huge improvement.

This season however was a different story altogether and it was going backwards.
 
Can’t believe (although one person is culpable for why) we are still talking about this fraud

Each game under moyes shows how much of a charlatan he (plus FSW) really was
 

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