2024/25 Seamus Coleman

[bluestevon]

I highly doubt that would have been humourous to her to be called thick to by her grandson.

Your comment was rotten to be honest, nothing funny about it and the reaction you received is fully justified.

Are you Irish mate?

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

That injury could have happened at any time at any level. Be that professional amateur or training match. Nothing to do with age having another player in the air lead with their studs down back of your leg.

 

[bluestevon]

That injury could have happened at any time at any level. Be that professional amateur or training match.

But it didn't, it happened whilst on international duty.

 

[12UniFlu]

Are you Irish mate?

I am mate, why do you ask?

 

[bluestevon]

I am mate, why do you ask?

Was just surprised at you getting so offended at what was basically a nothing comment lad.

Given he used it in context with stereotype, he basically was saying he regards it as untrue. Else he wouldn't have used stereotype.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

But it didn't, it happened whilst on international duty.

And... Be more worried to be fair had Pickford came away with broken fingers had Maguire landed on his hands instead. Worrying about Coleman way past his best, and ideally if other players were fit would be the bench warmer. Way over the top.

 

[12UniFlu]

Was just surprised at you getting so offended at what was basically a nothing comment lad.

Given he used it in context with stereotype, he basically was saying he regards it as untrue. Else he wouldn't have used stereotype.

I don't think your definition of the word stereotype is correct mate.

 

[bluestevon]

I don't think your definition of the word stereotype is correct mate.

Britannica Dictionary definition of STEREOTYPE. [count] : an often unfair and untrue belief that many people have about all people or things with a particular characteristic.

Given how he used it in the sentence construction, then it kind of is.

Irish are thick, all Americans are fat, Brits all have bad teeth, french eat snails and frogs and stink of garlic, Italian men are leches, Jewish people are tight with money, Belgium's are boring.

All stereotypes, all untrue

 

[bluestevon]

And... Be more worried to be fair had Pickford came away with broken fingers had Maguire landed on his hands instead. Worrying about Coleman way past his best, and ideally if other players were fit would be the bench warmer. Way over the top.

Problem is mate with a fully fit team, Coleman isn't a bench warmer he's the starting right back.

 

[12UniFlu]

Britannica Dictionary definition of STEREOTYPE. [count] : an often unfair and untrue belief that many people have about all people or things with a particular characteristic.

Given how he used it in the sentence construction, then it kind of is.

Irish are thick, all Americans are fat, Brits all have bad teeth, french eat snails and frogs and stink of garlic, Italian men are leches, Jewish people are tight with money, Belgium's are boring.

All stereotypes, all untrue

This is Oxford dictionary's definition & first google search

Stereotype
/ˈstɛrɪə(ʊ)tʌɪp,ˈstɪərɪə(ʊ)tʌɪp/
https://www.google.com/search?sca_e...2ahUKEwjd7JjU3beIAxVIs1YBHS1kAeQQ3eEDegQIKRAM
noun

1.
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

 

[bluestevon]

This is Oxford dictionary's definition & first google search

Stereotype
/ˈstɛrɪə(ʊ)tʌɪp,ˈstɪərɪə(ʊ)tʌɪp/
https://www.google.com/search?sca_e...2ahUKEwjd7JjU3beIAxVIs1YBHS1kAeQQ3eEDegQIKRAM
noun

1.
a widely held but fixed and oversimplified image or idea of a particular type of person or thing.

Yea, oversimplified mate.

Check out Cambridge also or Webster, or any other online dictionary - the common denominator is that a stereotype is not necessarily true and certainly is t true on a broad scale.

It was blindingly obvious he wasn't saying 'all Irish are thick'.

He used the stereotype to illustrate stupid behaviour with a predictable outcome.

He could very much as easily have said 'doesn't do the stereotype of all footy players being thick any favours'

Just don't think a throwaway comment in the context it was used is any reason to get upset about, and yup that's coming from someone who is way more Irish than anything else

 

[Goodisongang]

That injury could have happened at any time at any level. Be that professional amateur or training match. Nothing to do with age having another player in the air lead with their studs down back of your leg.

Tbf it 100% wouldn't have happened if he had retired from international footy

 

[12UniFlu]

Yea, oversimplified mate.

Check out Cambridge also or Webster, or any other online dictionary - the common denominator is that a stereotype is not necessarily true and certainly is t true on a broad scale.

It was blindingly obvious he wasn't saying 'all Irish are thick'.

He used the stereotype to illustrate stupid behaviour with a predictable outcome.

He could very much as easily have said 'doesn't do the stereotype of all footy players being thick any favours'

Just don't think a throwaway comment in the context it was used is any reason to get upset about, and yup that's coming from someone who is way more Irish than anything else

But he didnt say that did he?

Even if it was a throwaway comment, racial stereotyping can be very damaging and shouldn't be tolerated in society.

You being 'way more irish than anything else' wont change my mind on this to be honest.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Gents can you stop bickering like old women, women, like people and stay on topic please?

If you're offended by lazy stereotypes, a football forum will be no good for your blood pressure.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Tbf it 100% wouldn't have happened if he had retired from international footy

Studded boots are very common in football in general not just on the international scene.